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Roly Poly Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Posts: 712 | TRs | Pics
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Just curious what the heaviest pack anyone has carried on a backpack trip and if it affected your enjoyment of the trip? I don’t enjoy carrying a heavy load so 40lbs on a 10 day stretch is the maximum I can carry. A friend of mine is starting a 13 day trip with 70lbs.
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neek Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 2336 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, WA |
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:05 am
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I carry a little under 2 lb dry food per day (note 1 lb fat = 3500 kcal) and have an ultralight setup (or at least what counted as such 10 years ago), so it sounds like he's not cutting any corners. But it all depends on how the weight is distributed. With a well-fitting pack you can carry a lot, it just slows you down. When I was lugging around a 3-yr old, he was in the front so things were nicely balanced. But if I overload my ultralight pack, even 20 pounds can be quite uncomfortable. I weigh about as much as your friend and think he's a little crazy...but we knew that. At least the pack will get a little lighter every day.
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:27 am
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With old school gear (i.e. external frame pack, anything but ultralight sleep system etc.) and climbing harness/rope/etc. and photography equipment, I've started a long trip at close to 70 pounds at some point back in the past. I still had a great trip when doing that but I'm sure lighter would have been even more great. Those days are well behind me though.
We used to watch the Appalachian Mountain Club "hut croo" folks carrying 100+ pound loads of boxes etc strapped to wooden pack frames. They knew all the places they could stop to rest while letting the weight of the pack sit on a post or rock while they stood by it for a bit. They did not want to have to take that pack off and put it back on alone.
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Gregory Member
Joined: 08 Mar 2014 Posts: 386 | TRs | Pics
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:00 am
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So much depends on the pack. I have an old Lowe Alpine Contour IV 90+15 That caries 70lbs nicely. It caries 40lb like a dream. I carried a hundred and ten once for two miles. All elk meat. Its a very heavy pack by today's standards but the suspension is worth it to me.I have tried a couple of newer smaller packs but I just grab old faithful anymore. I tend to do more base camping with long day hikes.
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Ski ><((((°>
Joined: 28 May 2005 Posts: 12830 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:14 am
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joker wrote: | They knew all the places they could stop to rest while letting the weight of the pack sit on a post or rock while they stood by it for a bit. They did not want to have to take that pack off and put it back on alone. |
Huge logs and stumps are great - you back up to them and just sit down and let the bottom end of the pack rest on the log or stump, taking the weight off your back for a few minutes.
Heaviest? Well over 80 pounds with all my gear plus 45 pounds of camera gear while re-shooting 360° panorama shots from fire lookouts on the Cispus AMA.
Well over 100 pounds on many trips when I was working on trails - hauling a bow saw, loppers, a D-ring, a brush hook, work boots and pants and long-sleeve work shirt.
External frame pack will carry anything you can stuff into it or tie onto it. Just a matter of getting it on your back and being able to move with it.
I don't carry anywhere near that much any more - I'm down to about 50-55 pounds now for a week-long outing.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:22 am
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Back in the '70s I did a week long ski mountaineering trip in the Winds. Four season tents and climbing gear, including technical rock gear made for a heavy pack. I didn't get an exact figure, but it was over 70lbs. It was a grunt on the up and skiing down was ponderous and recovering from a fall was laborious.
It's much more enjoyable to eschew the technical gear and utilize modern materials to assemble a summer hiking kit with a base weight (no food, fuel or water) of around 15 lbs.
But getting to a low pack weight involves considerable expense and requires experience to do it confidently and with a reasonable safety margin.
It also requires some adjustments, e.g. When using a tarp for sleeping shelter instead of a sturdy tent, one needs to select campsites more sheltered from poor weather and avoid meadowed areas with dense insect populations. So your campsite may be less scenic.
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wade63 guitarman
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:26 am
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neek wrote: | When I was lugging around a 3-yr old |
Did this with my 4 YO daughter who was "too tired" to walk going to Tomyhoi if you can imagine, 80+?. Ah kids, several times I've had to take my young sons load and stash the pack. I stay 35 tops these days.
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cdestroyer Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2015 Posts: 1250 | TRs | Pics Location: montana |
60-65lbs for a stay of a week or more while panning gold from a creek
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xrp Tactical Backpacker
Joined: 01 May 2012 Posts: 369 | TRs | Pics
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:57 pm
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Overnight, first backpacking outing = 35 pounds. After that trip I reassessed everything and got down to 20 pounds base weight. Now I am at 10-12 pounds base weight. So much better.
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16092 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
80 lbs for a Pickets traverse including Rock and Ice gear and food for 2weeks back in the 80’s when ultralight was only a weed induced vision in some hippies mind. Included a Kelty Tioga and Jansport 4 season dome. Nearly as much in the 90’s at Garibaldi Lake with a baby and 6 year old.
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Roly Poly Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2013 Posts: 712 | TRs | Pics
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This is all very interesting. I find myself struggling with the enjoyment factor when my pack is high 30s, constantly thinking about the weight and not enjoying the scenery and also getting sore spots from the pack rubbing. It amazes me that anyone can carry that much weight AND enjoy themselves.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:33 pm
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Roly Poly wrote: | getting sore spots from the pack rubbing. |
That sounds like your pack doesn't fit well, perhaps the wrong size?
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Ski ><((((°>
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Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:16 pm
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^ yes.
have somebody look at that pack for fit. weight is not what makes you miserable and uncomfortable - it's the pack that doesn't fit that does you in.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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Sallie4jo Member
Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 220 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
I would agree with..
Sounds like your pack doesn't fit well and or not made for a heavier carry.
Having started years ago with an old frame pack and an extra heavy timberline aframe tent..think my heaviest was close to 7o odd doing the boundary trail for 12 days or something. Ive had way too many not great packs and some exceptionally comfortable with weight..
I think comfort has everything to do with a well fitted pack..and now i try to always stay below 40.
Less is better, but going solo..the carry can get heavy any way u go.
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HikerJohn Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2008 Posts: 354 | TRs | Pics Location: Daydreaming |
When in Philmont with my scout crew, I departed basecamp with 67 lbs in my pack-- including water, 4 days of food, tent, etc...
But I think my record was when I was in college, 21, a fitness and running fanatic (80 miles a week?). I was part of a Seattle Mountain Rescue crew that was supporting a film crew that was updating an old classic safety movie ("The Mountains Don't Care") up on Sahale Arm. Myself and a buddy were coming up late, so we headed for Cascade Pass with a full load of gear-- only to find a note with another pile of stuff the main group left for us to carry. We grumbled as we strapped that on to our packs (mine was a Jansport external frame) and headed up trail. We made it to the pass and found ANOTHER pile of stuff-- including a 5 gallon plastic container filled with wine and a note saying the actors and actresses had be shed load--and someone in the crew didn't want to carry the wine anymore. Don and I looked at each other, shrugged and added the load on top. Neither one of us could hoist our packs, so we had to BOTH work together to lift them onto the top of a rock, then strap them on, then stagger up the Arm. It took us 4 hours from the pass to the flat below Sahale Peak where the basecamp was. I collapsed against a rock about 200' below the camp, unable to keep going, so the other MRC guys came down to help me-- two of them lifted the pack off of me and estimated I was carrying 120 lbs or more-- not including the 5 gallons of wine we had carried about halfway up the Arm before we said "screw those guys".
Not recommended, but a heck of a story to tell after that one...
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