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Slugman
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PostSat Sep 28, 2019 10:50 am 
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Wait, there were practical and commen sense reasons for the parking restriction? But I read here that it was elitist ladder pulling and gatekeeping by evil government minions acting on behalf of super hikers, or something like that. You mean that was all paranoid nonsense posted by haters? Go figure.

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PostSat Sep 28, 2019 11:53 am 
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olderthanIusedtobe wrote:
I gotta say it.  For all of the "blame everything on the millennials" talk...who raised them?  Don't they get some of the blame too?  Kids don't appear out of nowhere and they don't exist in a vacuum.

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PostSat Sep 28, 2019 11:57 am 
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Pahoehoe wrote:
Are there any other national forest or park areas that you need a permit to day hike into?  I don't really see that going over very well.

Mt Jefferson Wilderness has multiple areas that require permits for day hiking. I'm sure there are others. It's a concept that has been shunned by Washington's District Rangers, but Oregon has long embraced it.

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PostSat Sep 28, 2019 2:14 pm 
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Pahoehoe wrote:
Are there any other national forest or park areas that you need a permit to day hike into?  I don't really see that going over very well.

I think you are correct; it would not go over well, which is one reason the USFS doesn't want to do that. It's difficult, if not impossible to enforce, and if it was possible, costly. In the 1980's, when they set aside the permitted Enchantments zones, Headlight Basin was part of it. But there wasn't an easy way for the District to patrol it, unless there was a cost share with Cle Elum District. So it was never implemented.

Plus they don't want to place limits on access on the land. Agency staff do care about folks enjoying the land. They have implemented permits/limits in certain areas, obviously, but a lot of those areas were placed under a permit system because of public pressure (like The Enchantments).

The NEPA process just to get to that point would be expensive. I think it would rise to the level of a higher Environmental Impact Statement, rather than a less intense Environmental Assessment, but I'm not sure.

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