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Kim Brown
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PostSat Sep 28, 2019 3:14 pm 
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Pahoehoe wrote:
Are there any other national forest or park areas that you need a permit to day hike into?  I don't really see that going over very well.

I think you are correct; it would not go over well, which is one reason the USFS doesn't want to do that. It's difficult, if not impossible to enforce, and if it was possible, costly. In the 1980's, when they set aside the permitted Enchantments zones, Headlight Basin was part of it. But there wasn't an easy way for the District to patrol it, unless there was a cost share with Cle Elum District. So it was never implemented.

Plus they don't want to place limits on access on the land. Agency staff do care about folks enjoying the land. They have implemented permits/limits in certain areas, obviously, but a lot of those areas were placed under a permit system because of public pressure (like The Enchantments).

The NEPA process just to get to that point would be expensive. I think it would rise to the level of a higher Environmental Impact Statement, rather than a less intense Environmental Assessment, but I'm not sure.

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PostMon Jun 08, 2020 9:03 am 
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Yikes!  uhoh.gif   Another "Don't go here destination!"  Although, it could be a real cash cow for parking tickets.   doof.gif
https://www.facebook.com/smair/videos/10219787886302311/

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PostMon Jun 08, 2020 1:43 pm 
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I remember when this was among the worst of our problems.  Those days seem quaint now.
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PostMon Jun 08, 2020 6:00 pm 
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That's a whole lot of privilege right there. shakehead.gif

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PostMon Jun 08, 2020 11:07 pm 
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That video is insane.   To bad that can’t just be left as a sacrificial mobbed hike.   That many cars could overwhelm a pile of trailheads simultaneously.
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PostTue Jun 09, 2020 7:13 am 
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Jeff wrote:
https://turns-all-year.com/trip-reports/colchuck

It would take every tow truck in the Wenatchee valley all day to tow this many cars. If you drove 3 hours to get there then you might as well roll the dice. Odds are your car won't get towed.

Why is nobody talking about the pack that was found in the river? Seems like something that should be looked into.
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PostTue Jun 09, 2020 8:45 am 
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jcocci wrote:
Why is nobody talking about the pack that was found in the river? Seems like something that should be looked into.

When I was a ranger in the Leavenworth district someone found a hand in the river. Just a hand.
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PostTue Jun 09, 2020 2:11 pm 
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rbuzby wrote:
When I was a ranger in the Leavenworth district someone found a hand in the river. Just a hand.

Maybe someone needed a hand while crossing Mtneer Creek. lol.gif

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PostThu Jun 11, 2020 4:05 pm 
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that video was picked up by komo... https://komonews.com/news/local/overcrowded-trailheads-near-leavenworth-are-causing-traffic-issues

also brief mention of the teanaway manhunt (nwhikers thread)
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PostSat Jun 13, 2020 4:58 pm 
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Love this on WTA:

https://www.wta.org/go-hiking/trip-reports/trip_report-2020-06-13-7386275129
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PostSat Jun 13, 2020 10:38 pm 
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I'll be honest. When I see this, my paranoid personality makes me wonder if some trailhead / wilderness vigilante will go up and start slashing tires on all those illegally parked cars.

What a cluster f### that would be. Dozens upon dozens of cars with 1 or more punctured tires

One of the MANY reasons I stay away from social media destinations

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PostSat Jun 13, 2020 10:57 pm 
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Colchuck Lake is one of the few places on earth where you can simultaneously see a lake and a mountain. Many know this and that is why it is so crowded.

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PostSun Jun 14, 2020 9:32 am 
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Bootpathguy wrote:
One of the MANY reasons I stay away from social media destinations

Every location is now a potential "social media" destination. It only takes one person to post an "alluring" picture and like pigs to a trough the hoards blindly follow, with iPhones to guide them and Bluetooth speakers for encouragement.
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PostSun Jun 14, 2020 9:34 am 
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A couple years ago I forgot to hang my "i'm alive and over 62" tag in my car window at the snow lakes TH. When I arrive back at the car I found a ticket on my window. Cost was $35 for the ticket and a $50 "service fee" to the organization back east where it was mailed. A few rangers could make somebody, somewhere a lot of money (and get the word out) hanging parking tickets on these vehicles.
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PostSun Jun 14, 2020 11:36 am 
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C'mon, the only two reasons to hike are to see and be seen.
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