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PostWed Jan 01, 2020 11:14 pm 
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Is this normal, or did I just pick the wrong day?  I skied to the top, and much of the way back down.  There were two or three dozen piles of dog poop on the trail, sometimes on the side, occasionally in the middle.  All the way up.  Not in bags.  I walked the last mile or so down to make sure I wouldn't fall into any.  I'm not inclined to ever do this one again.
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PostWed Jan 01, 2020 11:26 pm 
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I'm really sorry you had this experience. frown.gif  Irresponsible dog owners give the rest of us a bad name. I haven't had that experience on that road/trail and in fact I was just there on Sunday. We met several dogs along the way but there were no bags, no poop left behind.

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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 12:46 am 
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There is an eight page long thread on Turns-all-year.com ranting about dog poop on the route from Alpental Lot 4 to Source Lake.

http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=35412.0
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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 8:56 am 
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There is a woman who routinely goes out with 5 large unleashed dogs on to trails that are supposed to be on leash.  Like Bandera Mountain a couple of weeks ago.  I should imagine that pack leaves behind a lot of poop!
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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 9:19 am 
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Unfortunately it's not uncommon.
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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 12:28 pm 
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I mentioned this in a trip report on my website for Kendall Lakes on 12-30. It was the worst I have ever seen on one trail. We counted 13 piles on our way down. Renamed this route the "Kendall Krapwalk".

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y'all need to find a hobby when the weather's crappy like this

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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 12:35 pm 
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Same with the PCT-N at Stevens Pass. Its awful. I helped the USFS out a few times, taking snowshoer groups there, and unless there was fresh snowfall, it was lined with poop. Not a great way to show first-timers how wonderful snowshoeing can be.

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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 12:52 pm 
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Kim Brown wrote:
Same with the PCT-N at Stevens Pass.

The long flat traverse? In the winter I usually ski down to that from the ridge above and head back to the Stevens pass lot. Multiple times a day. I never saw poop, bagged or otherwise. I guess I'll have to keep an eye out now. So sad.
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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 3:49 pm 
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As a dog owner myself, I find that the vast majority of dog owners don't even use a leash when hiking on the VERY busy trails, so it doesn't surprise me.

Then we see postings on here and on FB about lost dogs that 'Just got away'.

People will be people.

I'd rather see dog mess than see a bag of dog mess though.
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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 4:45 pm 
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Well it sounds like this is the norm, and I'm better off skiing elsewhere.

I don't think most dog people are jerks, for the record.

I'm new to BC skiing, my background is groomed trails without snowshoe trenches, where it's easier to bed in control.  I fell at the top.  The possibility of falling into something nasty took a lot of the enjoyment out of the trip.

If this wasn't such a marginal year for snow, there would be a lot more places to ski.  I have a few in mind that probably don't see many visitors, and I'd rather go there.  If anybody has suggestions I'm all ears.
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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 4:55 pm 
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Ski wrote:
y'all need to find a hobby when the weather's crappy like this

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dog crap on blown up trails doesn't even get to me anymore. I tossed a few baggies I'd collected on someone's hood recently when they left them from their 5 dogs along the side of the trail going up, but that's about as much as you can do. Wilderness education and not littering just doesn't do anything, if there's no consequences some people will choose to be selfish, this is not a new problem.

I'd suggest a nice trip to the Seattle Central Library map room and browsing those giant topos.
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PostThu Jan 02, 2020 8:10 pm 
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It's not normal for the winter. I rarely encounter it. I ski Kendall lakes about 50 times a year, and I can't remember ever running across poop. I'll admit though, I tend to do Kendall when it is snowy, and avoid it on weekends. Still, I think you just ran across it on a bad day.

But in the Spring, it can be terrible. Basically all that frozen poop melts, which means it can get very disgusting. I would not recommend doing it as a Spring ski trip (the type where you carry your skis a little ways).
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