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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 11:20 am 
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Up until January 1st, the snowpack was in the area of 50% of normal according to climatology at NWAC. But as of this morning snow depths at Baker and Paradise are already at levels of about normal. Snowfall this week could run to 100" in those two areas. Of course, new snow has lower density and it will settle, but could still be somewhat above normal by next weekend even with settlement.

But a big question remains and that is how warm it gets today and tonight in the mountains. Temperatures are already in the 27-29 degree range at elevation and will climb further. The freezing level should be at 6300' mid-day and 6700' by 10pm. So, will it stay snow at 4500 to 5500'? We'll see in the next few hours most likely. I see water on the Crystal Mountain base webcam right now, but it is likely still wettish snow there.....
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It was big fluffy powdery flaked at Snoqualmie, sometimes coming down so hard they'd obscure nearby trees.  Turned to rain sound the Denny Creek exit.
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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 1:16 pm 
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Below normal temps for at least the next 10 days with plenty of precip around.  Let the ski season begin!  2 feet today at stevens, a foot at snoq... there will be some annoying rain for the next day or so but then back to snow.
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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 1:28 pm 
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Steadily coming down here at Priest Lake, probably got a foot overnight and today. Time to fire up the sleds!

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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 1:32 pm 
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Colder temps (I'd call them more normal temps) are predicted for next week on this side.  If you travel to the Methow, make sure your vehicle is winterized for coldness.  I need to check for water bottles in my little truck.  I forget about them.

It used to be a form of entertainment to watch the "coastie" cars get towed or jumped.  --no offense meant, that's what it was and the term is still used.

Still not enough snow at the Loup.

https://skitheloup.com/loup-loup-mountain-cams/

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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 2:10 pm 
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Yes, looks like have what we skiers call a "base building event" going on right now!

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It used to be a form of entertainment to watch the "coastie" cars get towed or jumped.

I would think it still is...

For similar entertainment, I90 east was closed  over Snoqualmie Pass yet  again yesterday for  a while due to spun out cars. I'm guessing though that any truck drivers trying to make their  way over the  pass weren't wildly amused... Seems like we are getting these  spinout induced closures more  often in the past few years.
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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 4:02 pm 
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Yup, and the clowns were chaining up en masse at North Bend, and then driving slowly on bare pavement for a dozen miles to the snow near exit 47.
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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 4:27 pm 
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I live in the Icicle canyon and got about 10" overnight.  But, this morning at about 9:00 it turned to rain and it has been raining since.  NOAA weather shows the freezing level at 4800 this afternoon, going up to 5400 tonight and back to 4800 tomorrow.  Temps back below freezing sometime on Wednesday.

Yuck
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PostMon Jan 06, 2020 4:36 pm 
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Yup, and the clowns were chaining up en masse at North Bend, and then driving slowly on bare pavement for a dozen miles to the snow near exit 47.

Y'always see this phenomenon happening when snow becomes a threat! Unique to the pac northwest vicinities. One time I saw sparks flyin' on 405 in bellevue

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Yup, and the clowns were chaining up en masse at North Bend, and then driving slowly on bare pavement for a dozen miles to the snow near exit 47.

At least they were driving slowly with chains on.  A chained up truck flew by me on one winter drive.  The highway was washboardy packed snow.  Had a chain flown off, it might have been bad. I was going at a safe, snow speed in my trusty Subaru.  One is supposed to drive slow when chains are on.

I suspect trucks were chaining up in North Bend because it might be a good spot to do so.

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PostTue Jan 07, 2020 9:45 am 
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We had about a foot yesterday but it's back to mostly bare ground today. Got in a little skiing while it lasted.
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PostTue Jan 07, 2020 11:41 am 
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I'll take "clowns"  chaining up in North Bend and slowing traffic a bit on the  bare pavement leading up  to  the  icy highway over fools not ever chaining up  and closing a major interstate used for both recreation and a LOT  of commercial traffic for HOURS.
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PostTue Jan 07, 2020 11:54 am 
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Excessive road wear causes massive delays too, in the summer for maintenance.

Theres a proper middle ground of course.  Chain up just before the road gets steep.
The clowns should be instructed to chain up at exit 47 and not before.  Theres plenty of room there with the big shoulder and the exit ramps and its side roads.
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PostTue Jan 07, 2020 12:36 pm 
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I live in the Icicle canyon and got about 10" overnight.  But, this morning at about 9:00 it turned to rain and it has been raining since.  NOAA weather shows the freezing level at 4800 this afternoon, going up to 5400 tonight and back to 4800 tomorrow.  Temps back below freezing sometime on Wednesday.

Yuck

Same here at about 2800' in the Idaho Panhandle, we had nice powdery snow last night too.

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Excessive road wear causes massive delays too, in the summer for maintenance.Theres a proper middle ground of course.  Chain up just before the road gets steep.The clowns should be instructed to chain up at exit 47 and not before.

Yes, no question. That said, I'm noticing many hours of 100% road stoppage on a frequent basis in recent winters due to the "fools." I do wonder at the degree of economic loss. I haven't actually seen that many of the "clowns" you describe on my trips to the Pass, to be honest. At least my anecdotal experience suggests that said road damage is likely minimal.
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