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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 10:31 am 
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Washakie wrote:
I think the brother from Better Call Saul is wathcing this thread.

Yeah, good ol' Chuck!

Great series by the way.  up.gif

Anyway, is this virus transmission via airborne, contact, all the above? Stand back and wash your hands (as mom used to say).

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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 11:32 am 
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http://www.trackingzebra.com/new-blog/2020/1/29/community-spread-of-ncov2019-is-endemicity-possible
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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 1:25 pm 
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BBC News - Health officials: Coronavirus spread to the US 'inevitable'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51637481

Top story on NY Times today as well (paywall)

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/health/coronavirus-us.html
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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 1:27 pm 
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iron wrote:
i'm sure this will spread worldwide, full scale. only solution will be a vaccine or whether you're not in a compromised health group.

I disagree.  It does not look as serious as bird flu or SARS at this point.  The big worry IMO is horizontal gene flow that transforms this novel bug into something far more deadly.

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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 3:59 pm 
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The pisser so far is MSFT was trading at 184 last week and closed at 168 today on fears of the virus's effect on the global economy.

I expect the share price will recover,  but I wish I sold a few at 180+
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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 4:26 pm 
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MSFT

And everyone else.  Wake me up in 20 years or so.
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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 5:08 pm 
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Last I looked (noon PT), Clorox stock is going up.

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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 7:17 pm 
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He laid on top of a huge pile of treasure.
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PostTue Feb 25, 2020 8:24 pm 
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Grannyhiker wrote:
Last I looked (noon PT), Clorox stock is going up.

Checked your local hardware store lately for disposable dust masks? lol.gif

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PostThu Feb 27, 2020 11:14 pm 
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PostThu Feb 27, 2020 11:33 pm 
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How about starting a new thread on this topic?
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PostFri Feb 28, 2020 12:24 am 
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zephyr wrote:
How about starting a new thread on this topic?

How about not? I hear enough about it on the news. cool.gif

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PostFri Feb 28, 2020 8:35 am 
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Humans adores trees. But humans also migrate and trade, habits that led to the accidental introduction of insects and diseases that harm trees and alter the landscape. Examples are easy to find and may be outside your front door: American elms that once dotted streets across America succumbed to Dutch elm disease. Now all colors of ash species – black, green, white, pumpkin, and blue – are threatened by emerald ash borer. The already uncommon butternut tree, also known as white walnut, faces the possibility of extinction from a mysterious attacker.

Many invasive insects and fungi come from regions where native trees have evolved to resist their attacks. When these species enter the United States, they find trees that lack this resistance. There’s no immediate end to this dismal pipeline, but there is hope on the horizon.

After a pest has moved through a forest, inquisitive scientists scour the woods looking for survivors. There is a chance that no trees will survive, but those that do may be worth studying. Scientists at the USDA Forest Service’s Northern Research Station work with the agency’s Reforestation, Nurseries, and Genetics Research program, also known as RNGR. They have identified lingering green ash trees that are demonstrating resistance. So far, 16 selectively bred varieties of American elm are on the market, and scientists at the Northern Research Station are breeding trees to improve resistance even further. Resistance in butternut remains elusive, but scientists in the United States and Canada, including those at the Hardwood Tree Improvement Regeneration Center, are embarking on a new plan to help save the species. Today, the search for ash and elm trees with resistance to emerald ash borer and Dutch elm disease continues.

Finding survivors is the first step toward improving resistance. Scientists acquire a branch or bud from surviving trees, then transport and study these survivors to their lab for assessments and controlled studies. Surviving trees can be cross-pollinated to increase resistance in the offspring. Eventually, as resistant material becomes available, you can check the national nursery and seed directory at the RNGR website.

Citizen scientists can contribute to this important work. If you find a surviving elm or ash tree in the woods, upload the information to Treesnap, a free app that you can download to your phone. Hard-working scientists and trained citizen-scouts are needed to conserve seed, graft survivors, and breed for resistance. These efforts may be our best bet to prevent the wholesale loss of our most beloved, and valued, forest trees.
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The USDA Forest Service has developed a new risk-assessment tool that helps scientists and decision makers manage natural resources and develop strategies that strengthen ecosystems.

The FireCLIME Vulnerability Assessment Tool, developed by Forest Service scientist and partners, measures how climate change and changes in wildfire patterns, impact the vulnerability of lands and other natural areas. The tool also helps land managers measure and compare the potential effectiveness of strategies for sustaining these areas.

Developing effective risk management strategies to strengthen our ecosystems, specifically with wildfire and climate change, is a significant challenge in the field of natural resource management.

“FireCLIME is a quick, flexible tool that helps land managers and industry partners compare how well treatments such as mechanical thinning or prescribed fire are able to prepare landscapes to adapt to future changes in climate or fire behavior,” said Megan Friggens, a research ecologist with the Forest Service’s Rocky Mountain Research Station.”

Changes in climate affect forests directly. For example, drought and heat stress are linked to tree mortality. Changes in climate also affect forests indirectly. Wildfire frequency, fire season length, and total area burned are all projected to increase in the coming decades in the western United States in response to warmer, drier conditions. However, it’s hard to predict how climate-driven wildfire patterns will influence a particular landscape and the organisms that depend upon it because climate, vegetation and wildfire interactions are complex and do not operate independently.

“FireCLIME can be used to identify at-risk resources and guide management actions,” Friggens said. “The tool works by comparing changes in desired future conditions under different climate-fire and management strategy scenarios.”

Despite these complexities, land managers are required to develop long-term plans and make site-specific decisions for managing natural resources and wildland fire based on the best available information and large-scale objectives. Once the desired future conditions are defined, users compile information about past fire history, current landscape condition, and future expected climate and wildfire within a Microsoft Excel-based program to produce impact scores representing potential negative outcomes.

The program can compare the effectiveness of up to three different management strategies for reducing negative impacts. As climate projections improve and climate-fire-ecosystem interactions are better understood, this tool can be updated to reflect the best available science. Forest Service researchers will continue to study risk-based wildland fire management to help managers make informed decisions for improving forest conditions.
Participants listening to a presentation on fire simulation models.
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PostFri Feb 28, 2020 9:31 am 
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The Dragon was fearsome and vengeful. It breathed fire and incinerated all who came to steal the Treasure, all except for one...

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