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PostMon May 18, 2020 3:48 pm 
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I crap in the woods.  I never wash my hands.  And I have NEVER seen anyone wash their hands after crapping in the woods.  EVER.

I keep training my immune system by getting sick.  My body is essential.  I keep it healthy.  And being healthy is to not be afraid of germs, bacteria, or viruses.   That is one way how we got here after thousands of years....Its called being human.

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PostMon May 18, 2020 4:33 pm 
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New peer-reviewed research says coronavirus droplets caused by talking remain in the air for 8-14 minutes

We all know that coughing and especially sneezing spreads the virus.   But I've always wondered about talking.       

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/speaking-causes-airborne-virus-transmission-coroanvirus-study-gives-more-insight-into-the-diseases-rapid-contagion-2020-05-14?mod=mw_latestnews
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PostMon May 18, 2020 5:27 pm 
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ale_capone wrote:
Its really hard not to touch or adjust your mask constantly.

I agree.  I only wear one for quick trips to the post office, grocery store, etc.  Lately on longer runs, I notice that I keep adjusting the mask.  Of course, it's one of the cheap medical ones that I got at the doctor's office.  I supplement it with a bandana.  It would be really a chore to try to do much work in the mask especially when it gets hotter.  I imagine some of the better constructed ones would be better.  I would like to try out the face shield some day.  Thanks for sharing your real life experience.  ~z
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PostTue May 19, 2020 3:10 pm 
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Found myself at the barber shop this afternoon for a fresh cut and shave.  Was starting to look like sasquatch.  Apparently the shop has been taking clients quietly throughout the closure.  Another local restaurant is opening May 27th, and reservations were gone almost instantly.  Owner asking other restaurants locally to hopefully join

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PostTue May 19, 2020 5:11 pm 
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Here's an interesting article in Science magazine that was published today.  Why do some COVID-19 patients infect many others, whereas most donít spread the virus at all?

Quote:  Thatís why in addition to R, scientists use a value called the dispersion factor (k), which describes how much a disease clusters. The lower k is, the more transmission comes from a small number of people.
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Why coronaviruses cluster so much more than other pathogens is ďa really interesting open scientific question,Ē says Christophe Fraser of the University of Oxford, who has studied superspreading in Ebola and HIV. Their mode of transmission may be one factor. SARS-CoV-2 appears to transmit mostly through droplets, but it does occasionally spread through finer aerosols that can stay suspended in the air, enabling one person to infect many. Most published large transmission clusters ďseem to implicate aerosol transmission,Ē Fraser says.
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Individual patientsí characteristics play a role as well. Some people shed far more virus, and for a longer period of time, than others, perhaps because of differences in their immune system or the distribution of virus receptors in their body. A 2019 study of healthy people showed some breathe out many more particles than others when they talk. (The volume at which they spoke explained some of the variation.) Singing may release more virus than speaking, which could help explain the choir outbreaks. Peopleís behavior also plays a role. Having many social contacts or not washing your hands makes you more likely to pass on the virus. (Emphasis mine.)

Much more of interest at the link.  ~z
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PostWed May 20, 2020 9:51 am 
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New infographic alert--

An article in ProPublica:  States Are Reopening: See How Coronavirus Cases Rise or Fall

There is an interactive chart on all the states in the U.S.  that shows "the trajectory of each states's positive tests as a percentage of total tests, over the last two week." 

The information is sourced from:  The COVID Tracking Project, National Governors Association, CDC COVID-19 Module, CDC FluView.  By clicking on the individual state designated on the initial map you are taken to that state's metrics and results.          ~z
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PostWed May 20, 2020 11:45 am 
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New peer-reviewed study in Science suggests people do develop protective antibodies that prevent reinfection. Research is in primates. Good news for people who have survived the virus, and also for vaccine development.

SARS-CoV-2 infection protects against rechallenge in rhesus macaques
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/05/19/science.abc4776

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An understanding of protective immunity to SARS-CoV-2 is critical for vaccine and public health strategies aimed at ending the global COVID-19 pandemic. A key unanswered question is whether infection with SARS-CoV-2 results in protective immunity against re-exposure. We developed a rhesus macaque model of SARS-CoV-2 infection and observed that macaques had high viral loads in the upper and lower respiratory tract, humoral and cellular immune responses, and pathologic evidence of viral pneumonia. Following initial viral clearance, animals were rechallenged with SARS-CoV-2 and showed 5 log10 reductions in median viral loads in bronchoalveolar lavage and nasal mucosa compared with primary infection. Anamnestic immune responses following rechallenge suggested that protection was mediated by immunologic control. These data show that SARS-CoV-2 infection induced protective immunity against re-exposure in nonhuman primates.

Caution though, sample size is only 9 primates.
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PostWed May 20, 2020 10:27 pm 
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A lot of the news is more akin to Silicon Valley vaporware than scientific research. It is seldom peer reviewed or proper double blind experiments. I am hopeful but not blind. My daughter is in research and I know how difficult and time consuming it is to get accepted in a reputable journal. Do not trust general news media to provide accurate information.

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PostThu May 21, 2020 4:25 am 
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Malachai Constant wrote:
Do not trust general news media to provide accurate information.

This, for several reasons, and primarily (in my opinion), to sell ads, not to inform.

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PostThu May 21, 2020 5:31 am 
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This is not a surprise.    It's usually about half during a typical flu season.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-poll-exclu/exclusive-a-quarter-of-americans-are-hesitant-about-a-coronavirus-vaccine-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN22X19G

So, they refuse to take a vaccine, let them get sick.   Fewer stupid people in the gene pool.
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PostThu May 21, 2020 7:58 pm 
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Woman who designed FL's covid dashboard removed
Just what we need: another reason to doubt the stats.  frown.gif

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PostThu May 21, 2020 8:42 pm 
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This was covered on PBS tonight.

Masks appear to reduce - by 90% - airborne particles from breath.  Cautions, however for those wearing face shields - or standing behind someone who does.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-05-21/coronavirus-face-masks-can-reduce-spread-of-person-s-breathe-by-90-new-research-finds/

(ITV is the large, for profit, news outlet in the UK....other than BBC)
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PostFri May 22, 2020 10:41 pm 
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Jumble Jowls wrote:
This is not a surprise.    It's usually about half during a typical flu season.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-poll-exclu/exclusive-a-quarter-of-americans-are-hesitant-about-a-coronavirus-vaccine-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN22X19G

So, they refuse to take a vaccine, let them get sick.   Fewer stupid people in the gene pool.

Everybody should read the linked article above.
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PostSat May 23, 2020 1:40 am 
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Would have been more interesting if they interviewed those at high risk.  While lower risk groups aren't in the clear without a vaccine, strikes me as less important if they opt out.
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