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PostSun Mar 15, 2020 3:55 pm 
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I’m thinking ranger stations are going to close to the public temporarily. So will places allow self registration, or come up with some alternative, or just close it down? And how long would a closure last?

I would hate to see places like the Enchantments closed, even though I am not going anyway. Hopefully any closure can be lifted before the summer season, but who knows anymore?

There are no alerts or notices that I could find.

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PostSun Mar 15, 2020 9:51 pm 
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Yes.
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PostSun Mar 15, 2020 11:00 pm 
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I was wondering about this too. Will they close the national parks? I can't imagine they'd close access to the national forests, but the parks seem more doable since they have metered access points.

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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 3:32 am 
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Will they close the national parks?

From what I have read briefly online, closing entirely any specific national park requires going through lines of authority to Interior Dept., and takes a long time.

But supervisors (generic term) of individual parks have management authority such that they can close visitors centers while providing same services (rangers walking parking lots to hand out info and collect fees, e.g.), close certain access points, close buildings, or redirect traffic without getting special permission.

Corporations like Xanterra and Delaware North as of yesterday (Sunday, 3-15) were not closing the visitor housing and restaurants they manage as concessionaires.

I can't speak to WA State specifically.
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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 8:06 am 
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Can't have these big conglomerations of people in the Enchantments during coronavirus concerns

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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 8:32 am 
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BigBrunyon wrote:
Can't have these big conglomerations of people in the Enchantments during coronavirus concerns

Or running about in the woods.  Everybody stay INDOORS and on the internet.  There is nothing to see out there.

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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 9:23 am 
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Slugman wrote:
I would hate to see places like the Enchantments closed, even though I am not going anyway. Hopefully any closure can be lifted before the summer season, but who knows anymore?

When the federal government closed in 2013 The Enchantments were closed. I had my one and only opportunity (as a persistent lottery loser) to head up and enjoy for 10 days.
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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 7:46 pm 
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Skykomish closed till further notice.

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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 9:13 pm 
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I was at Mt. Rainier today. Someone was in the booth at the gate, the gift shop at longmire said open but we didn't look too close, and there were bathrooms open in the tunnel at paradise. Some employees milling about. Main buildings were all closed.
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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 9:25 pm 
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Enumclaw USFS will be staffed, but not open (they'll answer the phone and talk to you through the door, but won't be allowed in.
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PostMon Mar 16, 2020 9:56 pm 
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Meanwhile, I just read on a geology facebook page that some National Parks are getting more visitors as people are going there to get away.  Moab is wanting people to NOT go there as they don't have much of a hospital.

Why does this seem more and more like a poorly written disaster movie?

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PostTue Mar 17, 2020 5:48 am 
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treeswarper wrote:
Why does this seem more and more like a poorly written disaster movie?

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Because it is/was written by our "news" organizations....IMHO.

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PostTue Mar 17, 2020 7:50 am 
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Well, Slugman, here's the official word:
https://www.fs.usda.gov/alerts/mbs/alerts-notices

OFFICE CLOSED UNTIL MAY 8, 2020 SERVICE AVAILABLE ONLINE & BY PHONE
Date(s): Mar 16, 2020 - May 8, 2020

Due to seasonal operations and public safety & health concerns related to COVID19
Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest Offices are closed until May 08, 2020
For information and customer service
please use the following resources:
Darrington Ranger District: (360) 436-1155
Mt. Baker Ranger District: (360) 856-5700 ext 515
Skykomish Ranger District: (360) 677-2414
Snoqualmie Ranger District: (425) 888-1421
We will make every attempt to return your call as soon as possible.

Also, all of us volunteers have been suspended, so we are no longer patrolling-- at least in Uniform!
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PostTue Mar 17, 2020 8:38 am 
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The way the country is reacting to this, probably.  Plenty of places to hike that dont require permission!

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This was posted on the Okanogan Wenatchee facebook page yesterday.

Effective today, the U.S. Department of Agriculture is implementing a screening process before allowing entry to USDA facilities, including Forest Service buildings. To assist, we are asking all visitors to self-assess using the following USDA-provided questions:
1.Have you, someone living in your household, someone you have been in close or frequent contact with, or someone you are caring for been diagnosed with COVID-19 (Coronavirus) or had any contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19?
2.In the last 14 days, have you or someone living in your household, or someone you have been in close or frequent contact with, or someone you are caring for returned from, or made a travel connection through a CDC Level 3 or Level 2 country or State Department Level 3 or Level 4 country?
3.Do you currently have, or have you had within the last 24 hours, any cold or flu symptoms with a fever greater than 100.4 or acute respiratory distress (e.g., shortness of breath and coughing)?
If the answer to all of these questions is ‘no’ please call the following appropriate number for assistance during normal business hours to obtain entrance to that particular office. This may include setting up an appointment to enhance social distancing and minimize the number of visitors in our offices at one time: 509-644-9200.
If any of the answers to the questions is ‘yes’ we ask that you still please call the appropriate number above so we may see how we may assist your need through other means besides face-to-face.
In addition to minimizing personal contact by calling Forest offices for assistance rather than coming in person, the public is also encouraged to postpone non-critical business with the Forest Service and practice “social distancing” when they encounter Forest Service employees in the field.
For more information on how you and your family can assist with this concern, please visit:




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