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rubywrangler
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PostFri Apr 24, 2020 7:30 pm 
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I thought it had come up in a previous thread here that using DCF for a design like the rainbow or double rainbow would be prohibitively expensive, but I can't find it now so maybe that was on BPL. Anyway, I guess that was incorrect - DCF double rainbow is available starting next week and the price is in line with all the other DCF tents: https://www.tarptent.com/product/double-rainbow-li/

Appears to be identical to the silnylon double rainbow, but 13.4 oz lighter. Hopefully they'll make a DCF rainbow next...
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PostMon Apr 27, 2020 10:56 am 
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They said, Double Rainbow! hockeygrin.gif

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PostMon Apr 27, 2020 11:26 am 
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I like the reduction in weight but the price is out of my range. My 9 year-old Double Rainbow is still serving me well.
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PostMon Apr 27, 2020 12:34 pm 
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+1 on Rich's thoughts. I guess I'd think about the price more, give it consideration, if it wasn't for the carbon poles and concerns about breakage. I just need to process that concern, hear from many others what their experience is about breakage. My first reaction is whoa. Deal breaker, out of my comfort zone.
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PostThu Apr 30, 2020 2:21 pm 
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Indeed...neat weight savings, but the wife and I still enjoy using the original Double Rainbow and it is still holding up well after all these years. We finally just upgraded to a double pad with some REI dividend...the Exped Synmat Duo. Pretty excited to try it out in conjunction.
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PostSat May 02, 2020 8:15 pm 
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Well, I pulled the trigger on this and bought it. I have a 13 year old DR that I really enjoyed, so moving on to this was no big deal. I had previously thought about the StratoSpire Li but opted for the Double Rainbow when they introduced the Li version.

It arrived on Thursday and I set it up immediately. After 13 years of using the old DR, I was wondering how the Li version would set up. No worries, just as easy as the old one. The fabric is taunt. Love it.

Changes to this vs my old model are many. One change is that the doors are oposing rather than on the same end. So in essence there is no head end and foot end as is true with my old version. The floor is 50" wide compared to the 40" of the old one. New magnetic door tiebacks rather than the old velcro. The top tube is 25.5" rather than the old 18". It also attached via grommets rather than inserted in a sleave like my old one.  Combined with the extra floor width, the added top width allows both my wife and I to sit up at the same time, which was not possible in our old version. And the floor ends have a new system to allow increased ventilation or to batten down the hatches, so to speak, for stormy weather.  The increased useable interior space is palpable. I realize that most of these changes are not just new to the Li, but have been made to the silnylon version over the years.

I would post photos but I no longer use a photo hosting service anymore so I can't. I am hoping they open up ONP soon so I can do a week or so on the coast.

The tent is sewn in China now, but the quality of the entire tent is equal to anything I have seen elsewhere. Not to knock other cottage tent makers, but the quality of others are just not even in the same ballpark with TarpTent. And Henry's designs are impressive to say the least.

Here is Backpacking Light's review of the tent.


Rumi

EDIT: If you have the old DR, the old aluminum arch pole is exactly the same length. The Al pole is only slightly larger diameter than the carbonfiber pole. I can only assume that you could use either one. So if you have the old version, you would have a backup.

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PostTue May 05, 2020 2:46 am 
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About the poles...
The sleeve in the LI version is designed specifically for the CF pole. Hard to tell but the curvature of those poles is different.
so for the moment I would suggest not to use the Al pole in the Li version.
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PostMon Aug 10, 2020 10:41 am 
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Well my partner and I have put about 26 nights in the backcountry using our new Double Rainbow Li. We have experienced bright sun and heavy rain; camped in low river valleys and high alpine; pitched on dirt, sand, gravel, dust, and duff. I have not used it in any particularly windy conditions, though a couple nights it was mildly breezy.

My opinion in general is I love it. It isn't noisy, but then again I am half deaf. It is easy to pitch and to take down, though I had 13 years of experience with my old DR to give me a head start on that. Condensation issues are about the same as the old DR. The difference being that with a microfiber towel I can actually wipe it dry. When properly rolled and packed it is smaller than the old DR, but it does not compact like the old silnylon version. All the newer features are really improvements, the magnetic flap keepers being my favorite. The waterproof zipper is stiffer to operate as opposed to the old design with a rain flap over the zipper. There is plenty of head room and both of us can sit up at the same time. The Carbon pole has more flex that the older aluminum pole so taking guy-outs for windy conditions is advisable.

Again, if you have a good experience with the silnylon version, you will not have much adjustment to the Li version. great tent with a solid design and impeccable construction and build quality.

Rumi

PS: And yea, I am digging the weight savings.

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PostMon Aug 10, 2020 12:49 pm 
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RumiDude wrote:
When properly rolled and packed it is smaller than the old DR, but it does not compact like the old silnylon version.

This seems contradictory to me.  Can you elaborate?
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PostMon Aug 10, 2020 1:14 pm 
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texasbb wrote:
RumiDude wrote:
When properly rolled and packed it is smaller than the old DR, but it does not compact like the old silnylon version.

This seems contradictory to me.  Can you elaborate?

Well in the first place I always pack any poles separate from the tent body. I usually place them down the side of my pack. I also packed the stakes separately somewhere in and outer pocket of the pack. So with the silnylon version I folded/rolled and stuffed it in the provided stuff sack it the same way I do with the Li version. Then I would place it inside my pack , usually verticle down one side of the pack or horizontal above the waterproof liner I would use.

The silnylon version could always be smooshed/shaped to fit around other pack contents like stove or food bag. The Dymeema version folds and rools smaller but after that cannot be smooshed much at all or reshaped. In other words, it pretty much retains it's shape and dimensions once folded and rolled. It can be flattened somewhat. Anyway, once you fold/roll it, you pretty much must find a place in the pack to accomodate that size and shape. It's not much of an issue for me but some people with very small packs might find it difficult to store it horizontally in a pack, thus limiting their options of packing.

Hope that makes sense.

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PostMon Aug 10, 2020 5:12 pm 
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Makes perfect sense.  Thanks.
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PostTue Aug 11, 2020 1:15 pm 
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All this love and hype for the Double Rainbow.  I've been considering a Stratospire based on roominess but a free-standing vs trekking pole based tent does have appeal.   Can anyone suggest pros and cons of one vs the other?
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PostTue Aug 11, 2020 3:25 pm 
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slabbyd wrote:
All this love and hype for the Double Rainbow.  I've been considering a Stratospire based on roominess but a free-standing vs trekking pole based tent does have appeal.   Can anyone suggest pros and cons of one vs the other?

To me a free-standing tent is almost a misnomer. The obvious reason is that almost every tent needs to be staked out to properly function. And that would include the DR.

I would have purchased the Stratospire Li but my partner doesn't like trekking pole tents. The advantage of the DR over the Stratospire is that you can "basecamp" with it and not have to collapse the tent in order to use your trekking poles for the day. I don't like hiking without trekking poles and I certainly would not like to return to a collapsed ten after a rain. But if that is not something you ever do, the stratospire does offer a better design in my opinion.

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