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PostThu Jun 11, 2020 10:08 pm 
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I accepted the ringing in my ears for years until I saw A Star Is Born... Then I was like "I have that."

It's gotten progressively worse and is constant these days.

My naturopath said there's no cure for tinnitus. frown.gif

Anyone here have this?
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PostThu Jun 11, 2020 10:16 pm 
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Talk to a hearing specialist.  My wife suffered with this.  The solution was hearing aids.  Expensive, but 100% effective in solving the problem.  Increasing the volume of sounds causes the brain to adjust so that the tinnitus is not perceivable.  We were both amazed at the effectiveness.  And modern hearing aids are small and practically invisible.  Good luck with this.  I am sure you can find relief.  Contact me by PM if you would like more info.
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PostThu Jun 11, 2020 11:41 pm 
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Had it bad my whole adult life, after an adolescence of rock-and-roll and homemade explosives.  Indeed there is no cure, but you can learn to not hear it.  (Except for when something reminds you to think about it, and then it's ridiculously loud.)  All of our senses just generate electrical signals, what we make of them is based on how the brain processes them.

My damage seems to be in the mid-range, so it causes trouble understanding what people say when they are speaking softly, but it doesn't seem to interfere at all with hearing fine details in music and birdsong.  Thank heavens!

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 2:31 am 
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uh.....

what?

yeah.....

way too many rock concerts (might have had something to do with working my way all the way up to the front and parking right under Rick Neilsen's amplifier one night)

far too many two-stroke engines at full throttle, 440 wedge chryslers with open headers, and other assorted and sundry noises...

sometimes it just drives you batshit crazy...

other times, not so much.

otolaryngologist at UW said about 30% loss of upper frequency range, but then part of it came back after all the treatments.... net result is that I can't always hear the bushtits and Bewicks wrens, but other times it seems odd what does get picked up.

you'll get used to it after a while.

or not.

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 5:45 am 
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Sorry to hear that.  Sometimes all you can do with a chronic condition is try to understand it better--accept it into your life as an object of curiosity rather than an enemy to fight.  You can use a tone generator to determine the exact frequency, if applicable.  From the site:

Tinnitus frequency matching. If you have pure-tone tinnitus, this online frequency generator can help you determine its frequency. Knowing your tinnitus frequency can enable you to better target masking sounds and frequency discrimination training. When you find a frequency that seems to match your tinnitus, make sure you check frequencies one octave higher (frequency × 2) and one octave lower (frequency × ½), as it is easy to confuse tones that are one octave apart.

I've used this site to better understand my frequency response when I had a disturbing but temporary condition where one ear mapped a certain range of high pitches to the same frequency (1160 Hz in my case) along with some minor diplacusis (tones perceived differently in left ear vs. right).

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Damian wrote:
Talk to a hearing specialist.
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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 7:39 am 
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I have had it since about 10 years old. I had bunch of ear problems as a kid, earaches, tubes in my ears, etc, so I attribute all that to the ringing in my ears. I have gotten so used to it, that I hardly notice it, unless it super quiet and I am trying to fall asleep, then I lay there and listen.

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 10:43 am 
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I've had it for a long time. You get used to it but there are times when it gets louder and very annoying for a few days.
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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 12:20 pm 
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I have had it big time for at least 40 years or so. Rock music never interested me when I was younger but I did operate a chainsaw during summer jobs for about 10 years, so that probably had something to do with it. My brain just tunes it out until I think about it and then it is unbearable. When I start thinking about something else I don't notice it anymore.

I do have hearing loss and ended up getting an expensive set of hearing aids. They seem to make everything louder but not necessarily any clearer so understanding what people are saying didn't change much. I usually don't wear then since I don't like everything being loud. Just can't win.
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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 1:26 pm 
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100's of rock concerts later I have mild tinnitus.  I recall seeing some 70's rock act and waking up the next morning hearing a siren blaring in my ears.  That eventually went away...or so I thought.  Luckily 90% of the concerts I went to were Grateful Dead shows, best live sound in the business by far.  They actually cared. Never a unidentifiable mass of sounds all mashed together, they didn't compensate for lack of clarity with volume, they provided the clarity.

Strangely, I find that it doesn't bother me as much out in the total silence of the wilderness as much as it does in the sounds of the city.  The sound of an airplane overhead or the sound of distant traffic seems to intensify the perception of ringing. Makes me think it is low end damage that is causing it.  Chirping crickets are the perfect masking for the ringing I hear.

I find that strong low pressure systems can cause it to increase.  A friend of mine, who has a congenital hearing disability, says that low pressure systems really screw with what remains of his hearing.

I wear earplugs at any live music performances I participate in these days.  The last big Rock show I saw was U2 a few years ago at Key Arena, and the sound was so brutally loud that it made no sonic sense at all until I put earplugs in.  Then I could actually hear music through the din and roar.   I think most "sound guys" running these shows are totally deaf by now.

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 2:22 pm 
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coldrain108 wrote:
I think most "sound guys" running these shows are totally deaf by now.

I believe that most of them have been all along. up.gif

coldrain108 wrote:
...waking up the next morning hearing a siren blaring in my ears..."

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I have vague memories of bells ringing in my head for two or three days after some shows. (John McGlaughlin & Mahavishnu Orchestra comes to mind on that one.)

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 2:22 pm 
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In college I made a few extra bucks by taking publicity pictures. This required  getting up close and personal as telephoto pix don’t cut it. Rock bands are not as harmful as shooting because the little bones in your middle ear retract when exposed to constant loud noise as compare to sudden bursts. After the concert I was almost deaf but in an hour or so hearing came back. I have not had the loss of some contemporaries but there is still some damage. Just lucky I guess.

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 8:14 pm 
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coldrain108 wrote:
I wear earplugs at any live music performances I participate in these days.  The last big Rock show I saw was U2 a few years ago at Key Arena, and the sound was so brutally loud that it made no sonic sense at all until I put earplugs in.  Then I could actually hear music through the din and roar.  I think most "sound guys" running these shows are totally deaf by now.

Yes, what he said. Concerts, drag racing, shotguns and short barreled pistols all seem to have been contributory.

Never noticed it much until my eldest grandson asked me to take him to Aerosmith at the State Fair. I couldn't find anywhere in the venue (outdoors) that it didn't hurt my ears, and the ringing in my ears hasn't stopped since! A couple of months later he talked me into going up to Seattle to see Steven Tyler, and although his band was loud, the 3 screaming women behind me were far worse!

I then had some custom fitted ear plugs made and when Roger Waters came to Tacoma, I was all set. Much better. They have removable attenuators in 'em. 9 and 15 db ratings, and the 15's seem to be just the ticket.

So now I try to tell the kids "don't DO that". "oh, I'm ok, grandpa...."

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 9:38 pm 
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I suffer some from this.  It seems worse in the quiet of the morning - like when I wake early and am trying to get back to sleep.  But mostly not too annoying during day to day activities with normal background noise.

Those who’ve posted about it being ‘not a problem until you think about it’ are absolutely correct.

I put my hearing loss down down to chainsaws, pumps, generators, etc on fire fighting assignments.  But probably more importantly, 1000’s of hours working around helicopters, flying in helicopters, etc.  Supposed to wear hearing protection, but it didn't always happen.

Rock music, not so much.  But, I did see ‘Blue Cheer’ and ‘Mountain’ - two groups who were known to turn it up to 11!
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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 9:57 pm 
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Big time.

Weekly visits to the Fillmore or Avalon concerts in S.F. as a "youngster".

Years of working around commercial jets at airports in SFO/PDX/SEA/IND/CLE/DCA/EWR/DTW

Cassette player or iPod turned up loud on aircraft as a passenger to overcome engine noise.

Never goes away.

Never hear S and G's "Sounds of Silence".

Like the unwanted house guest that never goes home.

No effective treatment,,,,not any hint or real hope of a cure....

...but life goes on.  Things certainly could be worse.

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PostFri Jun 12, 2020 10:03 pm 
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Jinx, saw Blue Cheer once.

Just prior to the band  coming on stage, a roadie came out and nailed the bass drum to the stage floor.

I just wish they could play their instruments and sing.

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