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PostMon Jul 13, 2020 9:57 am 
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hi all, for a terranova 1man tent, sleep mat, sleeping bag, possible small tarp…then all the usual light weight stove, torch, ti pot etc etc

basically got everything but the backpack.

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PostMon Jul 13, 2020 10:14 am 
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Lilen wrote:
basically got everything but the backpack.

I'm a Zpacks lover.  Super light packs (sub 2lb) and a really functional carbon fiber frame  - it actually works like a full featured backpack weighing 2 or 3X as much.    I don't like to carry weight on  my shoulders (old injury), so I need the weight transferred to my hips.   I carried 30lbs in my zpack last year (bear can and all) and it was great, actually had to intentionally put some weight on my shoulders as the pack allows one to put it all on the hips.  Not sure about durability, but I don't plan to thru hike anywhere just 4-5 night backpacking trips.

I use my wife's smaller arc haul as my day pack.  Weighs less than my Osprey day pack but actually carries like a real backpack.  No shoulder fatigue at all. 

Plus the "arc" actually does keep my back from drowning in sweat.  And you can get rid of the arc if you need the pack tighter against your back for off trail scrambling.  I'm shopping for an Arc Blast to use as a day pack and for shorter trips.  They are a bit $$$.  And on the second hand market they hold their value pretty good.

Does take a bit of fiddling and adjusting to get it just right, but once you do it carries great.

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I like Gregory packs, imho pretty good packs for the money. I have never paid more than $150 for a pack. I had a Granite Gear pack that I also liked pretty well, but I bought the wrong size so I sold it. If I weren't so cheap I would buy a Z-packs pack or maybe a ULA pack. My friend has let me borrow his ULA Catalyst pack and I like it a lot. It's a 75 liter pack and it weighs about 3 lbs versus my Gregory Baltoro 70 liter pack that weighs 5 lbs 9 oz but is made to carry heavy weight.

Then there are the custom packs made by Dan McHale, $500 plus? But very durable and custom fit, not sure how much they weigh? I am thinking 5+ lbs at least. How a pack fits your body is very important, so it's best to try one on and load it with gear to see how it feels. Two hiking items that should be tried before you buy are boots and packs.

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PostMon Jul 13, 2020 7:55 pm 
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for what it's worth:

at this moment, searching Seattle-Tacoma Craigslist "Sporting" section for " pack | backpack " there are currently no fewer than 305 listings.

might be worthwhile to check 'em out.

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PostTue Jul 14, 2020 7:36 am 
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I have seen quite a number of experts on this forum posting advice about equipment such as backpacks, tents, cook stoves, food tips, water jugs, walking sticks, shoes, clothing, pets, etc etc!...its a long list....I think maybe yalls is to weak to go hiking if you need a special body fit backpack with tie downs for odds and ends and walking sticks and special boots to stand upright.
I went to the local store, bought a pack, boots that fit, and all the other camping stuff and never paid a heck of a lot of money...maybe it wasn't fashion statement of the trail gossip but it did the job intended. I never had any problems standing up or navigating that rocky trail that I needed a stick to help.

But then I never had a desire to reach the top of the world on some desolate peak. I went hiking/camping for the enjoyment of getting away from it all for a couple days.

Maybe I missed some beutificous views from on top of ol smokey, but I took pleasure in the smell of the piney woods, that little bird chirping in the trees, watching the fish swim in a small creek.
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PostTue Jul 14, 2020 7:07 pm 
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Most important factor for backpack is that it fits you. Brand is secondary but custom fits are sweet.

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PostTue Jul 14, 2020 11:01 pm 
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Malachai Constant wrote:
Most important factor for backpack is that it fits you. Brand is secondary but custom fits are sweet.

Fit is everything.  But size is a close second.  As light as described light you can use  a sub-50 liter pack, which will be lighter.

I’m not a big fan of Dyneema X fabric backpacks.  You pay a huge premium for lighter weight, and the lack of abrasion resistance limits its lifespan.  The newer Robic and X-PAC fabrics seem a better choice.

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PostWed Jul 15, 2020 8:40 pm 
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I've used a ULA Catalyst for many years with no regrets. Memory has it at 3lb., 4200 cubic inches

Here's their spiel.     https://www.ula-equipment.com/product/catalyst/
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PostTue Jul 21, 2020 7:57 am 
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I've had an Osprey Aether 70 since about 2007 and it's been a great backpack. Tough and very well designed down to the small details.

Instead of a sleep mat, let me suggest something else. Like most other people, I used to use the thin foam sleep mats. I never felt like they helped much, so I moved onto the thin self-inflating Thermarest pads. Same thing. So there was a period where I didn't take anything at all and just slept on the ground.

then a friend suggested the Thermarest ultralight cot and that's what I use now. It's heavier than I would like (3 pounds) and it's expensive, but for convenience and comfort nothing beats it.
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PostTue Jul 21, 2020 8:18 am 
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cdestroyer wrote:
I think maybe yalls is to weak to go hiking if you need a special body fit backpack with tie downs for odds and ends and walking sticks and special boots to stand upright.

II think there's definitely something to be said for this guy's post. But I still think there are some exceptions where it's worth it to pay attention to quality. My approach is to skimp and go for cheap on most stuff except a couple items:
* sleeping bag
* base layer clothing
* tent

The advantages you get from well-designed, high-quality material in those items is worth it, in my opinion. The "space-age" materials that are used in those things isn't just hype, it truly provides a lot of value. For example, synthetic sleeping bags are compressable and light while still able to retain heat even when wet. I've had mine (Northface Snowshoe 0) for years and it still looks and feels and functions just as new as it did when I bought it.

Another item I've always been impressed with are Marmot winter jackets. I've never had a need to own one, but if I ever got into skiíng or spending a lot of time in snow, I would get one. The design in those things is amazing. Super soft, super warm, durable.

But for everything else, I just get the cheapo stuff and have never had a problem. Camp stoves, cooking supplies, clothing, other gear.
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PostTue Jul 21, 2020 8:27 am 
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I'd like to add to the above post that I find campmor.com to be a good place to get stuff. Much cheaper than the REI-type alternatives.
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PostMon Jul 27, 2020 5:48 pm 
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Your website is subtitled " the easiest way to choose the right backpack"

Not to be too snarky, but it seems a little odd you are looking for backpack advice.  . . specifically what advice are you looking for??

Is there anything about your body that makes your choice hard? Base weight goals? Frameless or internal frame?
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Gonna want to get into somethin' competitive lookin'. Somethin' that'll cinch down tight, make ya look intimidating and 'strapped in' for the hard push ahead. Git into somethin' good.

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