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Schroder Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 6722 | TRs | Pics Location: on the beach |
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Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:22 pm
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In the Herald:
Trapped by 2,600-acre fire, hikers ran past flames to safety
Quote: | Fire can spread quickly — many times faster than you can run. If you see smoke while hiking, remain calm but leave as soon as possible. Try to figure out where the smoke is coming from and avoid that area. Be prepared to leave vehicles at the trailhead if they become blocked or if it’s not safe to leave. |
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HitTheTrail Member
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Kim Brown Member
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When Craig Romano was doing all the hikes for the Day Hiking series, he was on the PCT at Spectacle Lakes when that area began to burn. He said running down the PCT while the forest all around him was burning was terrifying.
Reading about the campers that got stuck in the 30 Mile Fire gives me the willies, just thinking about them standing outside the firewoman's shelter begging to be let in, and her heart-wrenching decision - to do so would overwhelm the shelter's capability, meaning she would die along with them; Leaving them outside to die meant she might live - while they die. She let them in, and they all lived, thankfully.
"..living on the east side of the Sierra world be ideal - except for harsher winters and the chance of apocalyptic fires burning the whole area."
Bosterson, NWHiker's marketing expert
"..living on the east side of the Sierra world be ideal - except for harsher winters and the chance of apocalyptic fires burning the whole area."
Bosterson, NWHiker's marketing expert
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
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Tue Sep 29, 2020 9:08 am
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My thoughts also.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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rbuzby Attention Surplus
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Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:52 am
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There was a TR on WTA by some people who went up Bachelor creek to do trail maintenance during the fire in the area. They had to hike out through some burning forest.
Maybe don't go hiking in an area where a wildfire is a few miles away?
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Schroder Member
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Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:07 pm
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I believe the people in the article were doing the Ptarmigan Traverse and started before the Downey Creek fire began. Others were on Miners Ridge when it began. I think the article offered some good advice on what to do when confronted with the situation.
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Sallie4jo Member
Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 220 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
So..being one of the backpackers on Miner's ridge when the Downey Creek fire exploded..
1. One of the people in our group called darrington rd prior and we were told, the dcf wasn't a problem as it hadn't done anything since August 18th and on the inci fire website the fire wasn't even posted( i was looking)
2. We began on the Tuesday after labor day and there were no fire issues that day there. On Wednesday we hiked up to miners ridge from the 9 mile camp.
3.. Wednesday night we were told (by Phyllis R) the Suiattle road was closed and we would need to think about hiking out to trinity or stehekin. We had planned to leave Friday and take two days out via the Suiattle where our cars were. We were told the fire grew to 350 acres.
4. Thursday we took a day hike and that afternoon we saw the fire had taken off..we were staying in touch with Phyillis and Paul Reed who were "vacationing" at the lookout. They were in touch with incident command. They were having difficulty getting specific information about what was happening. The 7 of us on the ridge(not all hiking together) agreed that night we were going to get up really early Friday morning and head out via the Suiattle by 7 am. We ageed we would meet phyillis and Paul to get an update b4 leaving Friday am.
5 Friday..we ..the 7 of us were heading to the trail as planned when Phyllis met us and asked that we go back to a place we could all talk/hear. She told us incident command was asking that we shelter in place that day. Although the smoke was terrible..i could think of worse places to hang out. We had image lake all to ourselves with 1 bear. And they invited us to come to the lookout 4 dinner and updates. We were told the fire grew to 1000 acres from the day b4. Phyllis gathered our names, contact names, car types at the trailhead. She was going to radio that down. Dinner was good..we talked about possible exits and agreed amongst ourselves that we were going to head out in the morning via the Suiattle as we thought it would be our last chance. We knew that night the fire was 100 feet above the trall..little else. We felt it best 2 try as we had several not real strong hikers who were concerned about the distance to trinity or stehekin. And there was also the food issue...we had all planned 2 be out Saturday.
6.saturday morning..as planned we were at the trail to head down by 7. Incident command again wanted us to shelter in place, but we said we would not, that we were going to go as a group..no one left behind. (We went down in 3 groups, fast, slower and slowest)
7. At the rest/water stop at 1pm..Phyllis and paul joined us..the slow ones, saying they were able to tell incident command that they had the 1 and only radio that could help get us out. So we moved on toward the trailhead. About 4 miles out the fastest group came running back saying the fire was burning on the trail..with flames and trees down. Phyllis listened, assessed and said we will continue to move forward. At 2 miles from the tailhead we stopped as she radioed incident command and explained where we were and what was reported to her. In maybe 15 minutes she pulled us together and explained we would be met but several fire crew who would walk us throgh 1/2 mile or so of trail fire. We headed on, smoke was thick and then we met the fire crew who instructed us how to walk and what to watch for..using all of our senses. In no time the 9 of us and 3 dogs were in our cars being led down the road through fire for 2 miles or so.
I write all of to say even when one does check about issues, nature often times makes a different call. We were lucky having Phyllis and Paul on vacation (ha) at the Miner's ridge lookout. (Phyllis works for the forest service) We were also lucky because we all worked well together even though most of us were strangers. A gift of an adventure.
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
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maurella Member
Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 31 | TRs | Pics Location: Snohomish, WA |
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Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:25 pm
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Did you notice much in the way of winds before that fire kicked up?
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Sallie4jo Member
Joined: 24 Jun 2009 Posts: 220 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
It was hot..not really windy during the time we were there..a light breeze..nothing more.
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
I choose to live in a landscape of hope.
Terry Tempest Williams
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Sculpin Member
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Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:47 am
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"Fire can spread quickly — many times faster than you can run."
Just quibbling but...no it can't. If your path is clear, you can outrun the fastest wildfire. However, fire moves fastest up hill, the direction in which you move slowest, so YMMV.
Between every two pines is a doorway to the new world. - John Muir
Between every two pines is a doorway to the new world. - John Muir
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 11278 | TRs | Pics Location: Don't move here |
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Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:07 am
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Sculpin wrote: | "Fire can spread quickly — many times faster than you can run."
Just quibbling but...no it can't. If your path is clear, you can outrun the fastest wildfire. However, fire moves fastest up hill, the direction in which you move slowest, so YMMV. |
Not a true statement. I suggest you read Young Men and Fire. Then the book about the burnover on Storm King in CO. The fastest wildfire will kill you.
Crews of hotshots and smokejumpers have tried to outrun fires. They haven't always succeeded. They've died.
You are spreading a falsehood.
The FIRST thing one does, when confronting a fire is to figure out a safe area to go to--a place you can get to easily, where the fire will burn around you but not harm you. And you hope you don't have to go there.
Quit spreading dangerous and false info. Somebody might get killed if they believe it.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Pyrites Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Posts: 1884 | TRs | Pics Location: South Sound |
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Thu Oct 01, 2020 1:05 am
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Thanks, TS.
Keep Calm and Carry On?
Heck No.
Stay Excited and Get Outside!
Keep Calm and Carry On?
Heck No.
Stay Excited and Get Outside!
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