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Bob2005 Member
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:11 pm
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Felpudo Member
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Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:27 pm
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RIP.
This day had just terrible weather, no?
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Schenk Off Leash Man
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:47 am
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Very much a bummer. RIP
Nature exists with a stark indifference to humans' situation.
Nature exists with a stark indifference to humans' situation.
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NBL West Seattle Based
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 7:27 am
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Sad news. Weather can get scary up there.
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thunderhead Member
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Ya, wednesday weather was terrible but well forecasted. Winds were howling all day but really ramped up when the big front passed that afternoon. Muirs weather station topped out with a 110 mph gust and was sustained above 50mph all day. Moderate rain/snow started in the morning and became heavy in the afternoon. The snow level was around 9000-9500 or so. But hurricane rain at just barely above freezing still has major hypothermia risk, even as one descends below the freezing level.
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gb Member
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:07 am
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thunderhead wrote: | Ya, wednesday weather was terrible but well forecasted. Winds were howling all day but really ramped up when the big front passed that afternoon. Muirs weather station topped out with a 110 mph gust and was sustained above 50mph all day. Moderate rain/snow started in the morning and became heavy in the afternoon. The snow level was around 9000-9500 or so. But hurricane rain at just barely above freezing still has major hypothermia risk, even as one descends below the freezing level. |
This event points out the need to be weather aware when planning mountain travel.
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pula58 Member
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:10 am
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This sad story underscores the need to not underestimate how dangerous truly bad weather is.
May he rest in peace.
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Mike Collins Member
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thunderhead wrote: | with a 110 mph gust and was sustained above 50mph all day. |
Where are you getting this information? The Northwest Avalanche Center link to Camp Muir shows the anemometer is broken and has zero wind speed all day.
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thunderhead Member
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Click on the 7 day chart. Today the anemometer reads zero (probably frozen in place, they do that often). But it was recording Wednesday.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:27 am
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Poor weather on the Muir Snowfield has killed dozens over the decades. A tragic outcome.
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Felpudo Member
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 11:59 am
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Felpudo Member
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:07 pm
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I've heard the saying that there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing choices. And this sad story makes me rethink the wisdom of this "conventional wisdom."
I've been up to Muir numerous times, but I've always chosen days with good weather. Wednesday was decidedly terrible weather, which makes me think they went up almost as a challenge. I wonder if others on here can relate to that feeling, I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. I hiked to Muir on Sunday, so it's making me think.
There was a post today on Washington Hikers and Climbers about a group having a miserable time in the Enchantments during this week's weather, but they went because hey this is when their permit is. Camp Muir is easier to get so I don't think that was the case here, especially on a Wednesday.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Fri Sep 25, 2020 12:56 pm
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Felpudo wrote: | I've heard the saying that there's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing choices |
That is a marketing slogan from a line of very expensive outdoor clothing.
The quote originated with Ranulph Fiennes a British explorer. But I doubt even he ever experienced 100+ mph winds combined with freezing rain.
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thunderhead Member
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Ya... there's not much for weather like this. A full dry suit maybe. With a few fleece layers under. Oh and a full head cover for sure. Plus goggles. Rain hurts at that speed, and a person without won't go upwind well. Hope the wind doesn't tear it up.
Just a good place to not be that day.
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the Zachster Member
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According to a report on Q13 News by a woman that met the survivor on the way down, she was wearing shorts and running shoes. Quite fortunate there was only one soul lost that day. Much sympathy to her, their friends and family.
"May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am"
"May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am"
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