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PostFri Dec 11, 2020 2:27 pm 
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The Seattle Times posted an article today recommending snow shoe hikes mainly on this side of the crest.

Here's the list:  Amabilis Mountain | Annette Lake | Artist Point | Cooper River | Crystal Mountain | Hurricane Hill | Kendall Peak Lakes / Gold Creek Pond | Reflection Lakes / Louise Lake | Skyline Lake | Source Lake / Snow Lake

They did a pretty good job of describing the routes with maps and travel included.  However, they seemed to bury the avalanche risk in the hike description.  In fact some of the included hikes can be quite dangerous as pointed out by a number of commenters.  Some are asking them to update the article and remove some--Source Lake/Snow Lake for example.  I agree.  Annette Lake trail crosses a few avalanche chutes.  Otherwise it's generally a pretty good article.

Note/edit:  I just now see that seahuskies posted a link to the article in the pandemic skiing thread.  I came across it while reading the Times this afternoon.  I think it's worthy of its own posting because there is some good information there overall.  ~z
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PostFri Dec 11, 2020 2:42 pm 
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Thanks for letting me know what to avoid this weekend.
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PostFri Dec 11, 2020 4:04 pm 
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Just great ... more tromping, stomping snowshoers and booters messing up the groomed ski trail leading up to  Amabilis.
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PostFri Dec 11, 2020 11:04 pm 
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Please don't walk on groomed ski trails or on ski tracks.  Thanks!
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PostFri Dec 11, 2020 11:10 pm 
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whitebark wrote:
Just great ... more tromping, stomping snowshoers and booters messing up the groomed ski trail leading up to  Amabilis.

Snowshoers are able to go pretty much anywhere, it's the magic of snowshoes.  You don't need groomed trails to snowshoe, they're sort of the wilderness version of a sidewalk.  That feeling is reinforced by how crowded the trail is.  Amabilis is pretty boring and tame as a snowshoe, it's also very long for the limited views.  It's also expensive, you need a groomed snow park pass, Discover Pass and NWFP aren't valid there.

Hex Mountain is a fantastic snowshoe.  Views every step of the way.  Doesn't feel tamed.
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PostSat Dec 12, 2020 10:52 am 
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whitebark wrote:
Just great ... more tromping, stomping snowshoers and booters messing up the groomed ski trail leading up to  Amabilis.

Seriously.  Really disappointed they listed this is a snowshoe trail.  It benefits no one. Showshoes don't need grooming and there are so many endless options that are more appealing for shoeshoeing.  I haven't tried it, but snoeshoeing Amabilis must be so endless, tedious and dull.  Everyone I've seen doing it looks miserable.

The Seattle Times article does mention the grooming and asks snoeshoers to avoid stepping on the tracks, but: 1) many won't listen; and 2) the article fails to ask snowshoers to say to the far edge and not trample the middle of the skating/"snowplow" lane, either.
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PostSat Dec 12, 2020 11:27 pm 
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Cyclopath wrote:
Snowshoers are able to go pretty much anywhere, it's the magic of snowshoes. 

Yet they always fall in line and stomp the crap out of any skin track they come across.  Weird!
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PostSat Dec 12, 2020 11:51 pm 
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Foist wrote:
Everyone I've seen doing it looks miserable. 

None of these snowshoe types are willing to admit they are miserable because they are only there due to social pressures or online dating. They do not actually appreciate the outdoors.

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PostSun Dec 13, 2020 6:53 am 
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Foist wrote:
Everyone I've seen doing it looks miserable. 

None of these snowshoe types are willing to admit they are miserable because they are only there due to social pressures or online dating. They do not actually appreciate the outdoors.

Yes, they are out there only to get a selfie and next year, the market will be flooded with used snowshoes for sale.

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PostSun Dec 13, 2020 6:56 am 
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I'm guessing you're being sarcastic. Regardless, I'm not saying snowshoeing or snowshoers suck generally (I do it sometimes myself), just that Amabilis is a bad choice for it.
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PostTue Dec 15, 2020 8:16 am 
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Well that's a good list of places to avoid. Besides there will be a slug of reports on WTA
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PostTue Dec 15, 2020 8:32 am 
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Thanks for letting me know what to avoid this weekend.
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PostTue Dec 15, 2020 8:40 am 
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I just want to echo what people wrote. Amabalis is a great place to ski, but a bad place to snowshoe. I'm glad that the Seattle Times wrote about avoiding the tracks, but wish they emphasized staying to the side. I skied there Saturday, and all the snowshoe folks were off to the side. On a side note, I've seen a lot backcountry skiers and even some split boarders up there, but rarely do I see tracks off the road. I'm not sure where they are going. Maybe that's just the only gear they have, and the conditions were poor (it was dust on crust off the groomed areas).

Anyway, back to the article. That was my main disappoint to me -- there is no way Amabalis would be considered one of the best snowshoe trips. The other disappointment is that they didn't mention places like Deer Creek or the Mountain Loop. These are trips that sometimes struggle with low snow level, but for snowshoes, it is less of a big deal. With skis, you have to worry about scratching your base. If you have to walk up to the snow level it is a bit of a pain. With snowshoes, you can just carry them into you get into the deep snow, and just walk over the rocky parts if you encounter bare spots. I think I would have had a section about trips like that. Foss River comes to mind as well, but there are a bunch of them.

A few modifications and the article would have been fine.
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PostTue Dec 15, 2020 8:53 am 
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Let's leave Foss river out of it. There is alot of 4 wheelers and Xmas tree cutters up there now. Saw 8 trailered jeep rigs up there this weekend. Not a good snowshoe area unless you plan to constantly step off the side of the road to let vehicles pass.
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PostTue Dec 15, 2020 8:54 am 
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I wrote to the author on Saturday.  No response.
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