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jinx'sboy Member


Joined: 30 Jul 2008 Posts: 641 | TRs Location: on a great circle route
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Randito Snarky Member


Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 7815 | TRs Location: Bellevue at the moment.
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But will there be any enforcement ? |
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Guiran Member


Joined: 03 Mar 2004 Posts: 616 | TRs Location: University of Washington
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I'm hopeful that sledders will respect the closure without enforcement, much in the same way that most sledders respect the Wilderness boundaries in the same region. Just like any community, I'm sure that there will be some bad actors.
Count me among those who are pretty happy about this. I wouldn't say it's fun to skin through areas tracked up by sleds, but snow bikes are a whole 'nother story. Two years ago, snow bikes tracked out the entire Kangaroo Bowl at the hairpin. Skiing any of the slopes after that was like encountering a creek crossing every few seconds. |
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gb Member


Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 5553 | TRs
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This is the way use designations have to be managed - by entire drainages. Otherwise it is much too easy to violate the rules. Still, in that motorized group there are some who think laws don't apply to them. I have seen tracks down Rainy Creek in a past year. |
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slabbyd Member


Joined: 21 Jun 2005 Posts: 211 | TRs
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Randito wrote: |
But will there be any enforcement ? |
LOL! |
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Cyclopath Faster than light


Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 4866 | TRs Location: Seattle
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Randito wrote: |
But will there be any enforcement ? |
Snipers. |
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dave allyn Member


Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Posts: 334 | TRs
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Inappropriate, Cyclpath. I'm not sure advocating violence belongs on this site. |
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!


Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 16608 | TRs
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You’re not sure, so maybe it does? Certainly you think all attempts at humor should be banned.
-------------- “The jerking motion of a knee does not reflect the operation of a mind” Slugman, January 24th 2020 |
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Brian R Member


Joined: 10 Feb 2018 Posts: 415 | TRs
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jinx'sboy wrote: |
more stories about increased conflicts in the area.... |
Is there any user group back country skiers don't have a conflict with?
gb wrote: |
This is the way use designations have to be managed - by entire drainages. Otherwise it is much too easy to violate the rules. |
Does this mean there will be entire drainages off-limits to skiers and snowshoes too? |
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Randito Snarky Member


Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 7815 | TRs Location: Bellevue at the moment.
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Brian R wrote: |
Is there any user group back country skiers don't have a conflict with? |
Doesn't it take two to tango? Snowmobiles consume 10-20× as much land area as any other user group. |
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dave allyn Member


Joined: 05 Apr 2011 Posts: 334 | TRs
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Slugman wrote: |
You’re not sure, so maybe it does? Certainly you think all attempts at humor should be banned |
I'm not sure because I don't make the rules for nwhikers. I didn't think I had a problem with humor. I must've been in a bad mood to miss the funny part of shooting people. |
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gb Member


Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 5553 | TRs
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gb wrote: |
This is the way use designations have to be managed - by entire drainages. Otherwise it is much too easy to violate the rules. Still, in that motorized group there are some who think laws don't apply to them. I have seen tracks down Rainy Creek in a past year. |
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Brian R Member


Joined: 10 Feb 2018 Posts: 415 | TRs
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Randito wrote: |
Snowmobiles consume 10-20× as much land area as any other user group. |
Hyperbole and utter nonsense. |
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Randito Snarky Member


Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 7815 | TRs Location: Bellevue at the moment.
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Brian R wrote: |
Randito wrote: |
Snowmobiles consume 10-20× as much land area as any other user group. |
Hyperbole and utter nonsense. |
It is approximate ratio of miles groomed xc ski trails to groomed snowmobile trails in the Washington sno-park system.
What is your measurement and how did you derive it? |
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Chief Joseph Member


Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 5830 | TRs Location: What Verlot Forgot.
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Snowmobiles cover much more ground than X skiers so obviously they will need more space. Where I snowmobile up around Priest Lake, there are over 200 miles of groomed trails. There are also X country ski only trails and some where each occasionally co-exist. Can't we all just get along? 
-------------- Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof. |
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