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PostFri Jul 09, 2021 2:32 pm 
This is interesting - Announcement from US Dept of Justice on a timber theft conviction.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-wdwa/pr/timber-thief-convicted-following-6-day-trial

Apparently the first time DNA was used in a timber theft case to match and trace the seized products back to the cut material on the ground.

Score one for the good guys!

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PostSat Jul 10, 2021 12:55 pm 
Follow this up with a nice Civil Case against the dufus's.

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PostSun Jul 11, 2021 1:42 pm 
So without the fire there would have been no investigation.

Real brain trust I知 sure.

My question: Do the guys that cut the maples and bear all the risks of occasionally getting caught, do their own scouting, or is this a specialty of someone associated with a broker or the mills, who shows them where to cut?

Is there another link in the chain that might be harder to replace that law enforcement should focus on?

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PostSun Jul 11, 2021 3:18 pm 
Pyrites wrote:
So without the fire there would have been no investigation.

Real brain trust I知 sure.

My question: Do the guys that cut the maples and bear all the risks of occasionally getting caught, do their own scouting, or is this a specialty of someone associated with a broker or the mills, who shows them where to cut?

Is there another link in the chain that might be harder to replace that law enforcement should focus on?

The Randle Packwood tweakers do their own scouting.  Look for hatchet chips taken out of maples.

It's super hard to find them.  They are in places that aren't all that well traveled or on any radar.  Most FS folks have their days filled up with other work.  The LEOs, well, most come to the FS by way of the military and they don't have much of a forestry background or knowledge of local conditions.

I do know there was a big bust in the Randle area.  It was a group of well known characters.  The leader managed to evade capture and I don't know if he ever was caught.  He flits in and out of different tweaker houses.  He's been chased but he can move through the woods easily and there was a tale about a low speed chase on bad roads when he had a load of illegal firewood in a trailer and was weaving it around to dump wood behind him during the chase.  He got away that time too.

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PostSun Jul 11, 2021 3:26 pm 
We we heading up the Hoh to camp at the park when we saw a sign saying camp wood $3 a bundle. We drove up the drive and there it was and bought one. When we got to our camp I looked and it was slabs of birdseye maple. Probably culls but pretty.

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PostSun Jul 11, 2021 5:18 pm 
Malachai Constant wrote:
We we heading up the Hoh to camp at the park when we saw a sign saying camp wood $3 a bundle. We drove up the drive and there it was and bought one. When we got to our camp I looked and it was slabs of birdseye maple. Probably culls but pretty.

Did you have a permit to haul that maple?  'Sposed to have one for hauling maple and western red cedar, firewood or not.

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PostMon Jul 12, 2021 4:34 pm 
treeswarper wrote:
Did you have a permit to haul that maple?  'Sposed to have one for hauling maple and western red cedar, firewood or not.

Bless your ♥️

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