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PostThu Sep 23, 2021 6:38 pm 
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It's one of the least-visited national parks, but had 652 deaths per 10 million visitors from 2007 to 2018.

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I assume those numbers, like most, just include the national park and not the whole NPS Complex? It's a bit of a shame every NCNP statistic seems to be significantly deflated since you pretty much either have to be a backcountry traveler or on Cascade River Rd to be counted as a visitor.

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Yeah, I saw a stat from a few years ago that showed 30,000 annual visitors for NCNP proper, versus close to a million for the complex as a whole (including Ross Lake and Chelan NRAs). This study mentions the 30k figure, so definitely just NCNP. Therefore, the death rate of 652 per 10 million translates to just over 2 deaths per year, based on 30k annual visitors. I'm curious how that would compare to strictly backcountry fatalities at other parks (since NCNP is essentially all backcountry).

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PostThu Sep 23, 2021 10:07 pm 
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He was expecting to see more deaths involving wild animals, given that these are wilderness areas. “I was surprised that there were only eight people killed by animals,” says Beltz.
It's always interesting to me how disconnected from reality many people are when it comes to the risk of animal attacks. I've met people unwilling to go on extremely well traveled day hikes for fear of wild animals.

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Never know, many large bears known to be in the area.

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PostFri Sep 24, 2021 7:41 am 
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With due respect for those who have lost friends and family in the park I agree the numbers are skewed by the park boundaries.

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PostFri Sep 24, 2021 8:31 am 
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kw wrote:
I assume those numbers, like most, just include the national park and not the whole NPS Complex? It's a bit of a shame every NCNP statistic seems to be significantly deflated since you pretty much either have to be a backcountry traveler or on Cascade River Rd to be counted as a visitor.
How do they count the people who drive on Cascade River Road? There's no entrance gate or fee. These stats are so obviously dumb, it's just unbelievable that the authors of this "study" wasted their time on it. The whole notion that NCNP is the "least visited" is ludicrous to begin with, because they are not counting all of the people who drive through on Route 20 or who day hike. And for other parks, they are counting millions of people who just drive a camper through a gate and stop at viewpoints. Does that make the *park* more dangerous? Of course not. A park would be "more dangerous" if a person doing the same activity is more likely to get hurt in that park than others. There is no evidence that is the case.

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Remember there are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, dammed lines and statistics. But all the instagram hikers should take head and avoid NCNP.

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Top Parks Where You're Most Likely To Die!!!! Actually it reads like an advertisement to draw IN instagram hikers. It reads like a Backpacker Magazine article.

"..living on the east side of the Sierra world be ideal - except for harsher winters and the chance of apocalyptic fires burning the whole area." Bosterson, NWHiker's marketing expert
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PostFri Sep 24, 2021 9:07 am 
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This was a report commissioned by a personal injury law firm.

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PostFri Sep 24, 2021 10:32 am 
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Here's the report from the original study
Frankly I'm surprised at the number of poisonings

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How People Die in National Parks Legal Intervention - 1 Ok, I really want to know the story behind this. huh.gif

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Undetermined is scary. As are the vast number of people who just go missing and have their cases forgotten. No stats on missing persons in National Parks as far as I know. confused.gif

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Steep, brushy, wet, cold, out of cell service. Snowy, subject to whiteout, or fog and clouds that impair route finding by visual cues. Did I say brushy?

Keep Calm and Carry On? Heck No. Stay Excited and Get Outside!
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PostFri Sep 24, 2021 11:36 am 
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brineal wrote:
No stats on missing persons in National Parks as far as I know. confused.gif
Of course there are. You can start here

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