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williswall poser
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 1967 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
Anyone on this site knows I do a lot of video work. In 2012 I spent an inordinate amount of time stitching together 3 cameras for views on the Wonderland. For the past few years I've had good success with shoulder mounted GoPros because the built in stabilization has been so good. But recently I've acquired a GoPro Max 360 camera and have been pretty impressed with the camera's capabilities. Once you set and angle of viewing, it never waivers and maintains a very stable platform no matter what the mounted camera is doing. I recently had a chance to try this on a forward helmet mount skiing the Muir snow field. In its pure form I can author a 360 video and just leave as is so the viewer can look around themselves. Or I can author the 360 in standard 2D video and point the camera in any direction I please, as I demo in the clip below. Once the camera is mounted away from the body on a pole, the viewer will have unobstructed looksies in all directions, including feet to sky. I'm looking forward to authoring videos with this capability. Here are some links for anyone interested in before and after.
2012 compilation of 3 camera shots using two Contours and one GoPro:
https://vimeo.com/58934751
The newer GoPros have excellent built in stabilization so shoulder mounted works well for hiking, biking or skiing:
This is from last year's hike of the Wonderland: https://vimeo.com/579019281
Typical ski example: https://vimeo.com/314844585
Biking in Italy example: https://vimeo.com/360447521
And finally, the two recent examples of editing (or not) with 360 video:
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neek Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 2337 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, WA |
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Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:53 am
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Cool! I was able to pan around in that last one.
Your "Typical ski" and "Biking in Italy" links are the same.
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williswall poser
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 1967 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
Thanks, fixed the linkee.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Randito
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Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:19 am
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That is some pretty unwatchable video. I got a helmet cam when they first came (pre-gopro), but quickly decided it results in fairly boring footage. If your goal is to relive your ski runs, I guess it works, but if the goal is to create footage that other people will enjoy watching, I think helmet cam footage only works well when combined with footage from another camera operator -- so you can view the skier from a distance -- and then see a short clip from their perspective -- say right at the point where they are hucking the cliff.
Shooting video worth watching for others involves a lot more work.
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flatsqwerl Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 1049 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
I was too tense about hitting rocks and falling on ice to enjoy this..!:>) Nice job.
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williswall poser
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 1967 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
"Shooting video worth watching for others involves a lot more work."
Dude, it was a demo. I talked about the possibilities of 360 video compared to older cameras, therefore "demo" was in the title.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Randito
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Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:46 pm
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williswall wrote: | I talked about the possibilities of 360 video compared to older cameras |
Yeah the 360 video is substantially more nausea inducing.
I can see where little bits of 360 video might be useful in a montage, but recording your whole bike ride / hike / ski run and posting the whole thing seems the the 21st century of the '60s grand canyon slide show from hell, where the presenter starts the narration of each slide with "Now I think this was..."
Vimeo does report numbers of views -- let that be your guide to whether your videos are for yourself or something that others find interesting.
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williswall poser
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 1967 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
Randito wrote: | williswall wrote: | I talked about the possibilities of 360 video compared to older cameras |
Yeah the 360 video is substantially more nausea inducing.
I can see where little bits of 360 video might be useful in a montage, but recording your whole bike ride / hike / ski run and posting the whole thing seems the the 21st century of the '60s grand canyon slide show from hell, where the presenter starts the narration of each slide with "Now I think this was..."
Vimeo does report numbers of views -- let that be your guide to whether your videos are for yourself or something that others find interesting. |
Thanks for your guidance.
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zimmertr TJ Zimmerman
Joined: 24 Jun 2018 Posts: 1224 | TRs | Pics Location: Issaquah |
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Tue Feb 01, 2022 4:31 pm
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Personally, I've stumbled across a number of Williswall's videos that I found useful for beta and general information. Some specific examples that immediately come to mind are the campground walkthroughs in Rainier, him crossing the South Mowich River after the bridge washed out last year, and the off-trail stuff on the east side of Mt Adams.
His video view count is low because:
1) He doesn't advertise himself on social media platforms like Reddit
2) Vimeo doesn't have as strong of a following as YouTube
3) The subject matter is niche
None of those things even remotely imply the content is low quality.
As long as we're giving out feedback, Randito should work on his delivery.
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sooperfly Member
Joined: 04 May 2003 Posts: 1234 | TRs | Pics Location: North Central Wa. |
Thank you for showing this! Never really looked at this kind of video before, very interesting.
Opens up more possibilities - I look forward to what you share in the future !!
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