[zimmertr]

I'll still happily take an exit row seat lol. Probably won't even shy away from Max. This was an installation fluke that could have happened to any plugged airplane body regardless of model.

[Chief Joseph]

O' I get that, but I doubt that many of the general public will. Fear is rampant...but you are not paranoid if something or someone is out to get ya!

[treeswarper]

A headrest was found.

[Bowregard]

[zimmertr]

[FiveNines]

737 Max is not a 737. Max did not take maiden flight until 2016. Not delivered to any customers until 2017. The 737 Max has been grounded for over 20 months of its ~6.5 year service time. Boeing has already paid more than $2,500,000,000 in settlements against claims of fraud and negligence in the flight certification and manufacture of the 737 Max. Maybe you have a compelling argument? But why do you support it and cite statistics from a different model plane, and from three years before 737 Max ever flew? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_MAX eta I was responding to zimmertr post before they edited to acknowledge there is a difference between 737 and 737 Max.

[Bowregard]

Hi zimmertr, I took "fluke" to mean "unlucky chance" more than simply unusual. As you stated flying is statistically quite safe. No argument there. I just struggle with what is may be an installation issue being "unlucky" but I get your point.

[Malachai Constant]

The ironic thing is that they often charge more for those seats as they have more legroom.

[zimmertr]

[flatsqwerl]

[Schroder]

[Chief Joseph]

[grannyhiker]

As a sidelight, some NTSB members will visit the physics class of Bob Sauer, the teacher in whose back yard the door plug landed. Evidently Bob was quite the star at school yesterday! (This last per the NTSB news conference yesterday evening.) https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/washington-county/ntsb-officials-visit-classroom-bob-sauer-door-plug/283-2777e780-8f79-45f6-96d9-b010a31e4b63

[jinx'sboy]

An old friend - who did a couple decades in QA/QC on the rocketry side of things at Lockheed-Martin - explains it this way…. “Boeing f’ed up at what we used to call Quality-101. The manufacturing/production people always HATED seeing me standing around out on their shop floor in my little Buster Brown suit keeping my hands clean witnessing tork operations. My presence slowed things down & cost the company money, they said, cos all I did was watch while the Real Workin' Men did useful work. I wasn't needed and I was In The Way. They useta express that opinion frequently while I hadda stand there. Looks like those same noisy f***ers got their way at Boeing and they fired their inspectors to save $.”

[Tom]

I don't know, I discount anything from any self-proclaimed authority that uses that vernacular. I used to work at GE where there was a heavy emphasis on quality. That certainly made sense for manufacturing, but it was complete nonsense when applied to other industries like insurance. A lot of the quality gurus that showed up to push their religion in the industry I worked were cult like head cases. I think this particular incident is just bad luck and not necessarily anything to do with the 737 Max. I wouldn't have any issues flying one of those planes, the statistics speak for themselves, air travel is pretty darn safe. From what I've heard, the warning sensors went off several times before the door actually blew. This one seems to be more on Alaska for not taking the warnings seriously enough and keeping the plane in service.