[Allison]

[MtnGoat]

do you understand that whatever the primary goal, the actual outcome is reducing access? In many threads I see an effort to use a goal to seemingly deflect it's actual impacts as implemented. all i'm pointing out is that the comment that certain folks are better suited car camping or something outside wilderness, is at odds with efforts to reduce access to places they can do so outside of wilderness areas. seems to me the "shouldn't be here" collides with "shouldn't be there, either" leaving everyone not into the specifica agenda getting the short end from both ends.

[sculpturearts]

I'm for closing it and buying out the inholders. Like somebody said, if your money wasn't wasted on star wars, they'd have more for things like maintainng the road. Maybe this will free resources to build and maintain other trails in the area. As far as preservation, give it a rest up there for a while. I bike it up past dingford. It's just a different experience. I don't want it closed just because I bike it. Even over the next two summers, you won't be able to drive across the slide. There's limited space at the slide to park. If the new parking area is full at the slide, full being about four cars, you'll have trouble turning around once you're up there. A Hummer could maybe drive across it, but otherwise, it'd be an all day work party to roll boulders down the hill to clear it enough. The slide is about 3 feet high, four feet high, and about 20-30 feet or so long. This is what I remember from the last time I was up there in the fall.

[Allison]

We drove over it in Tom's 4Runner a couple of weekends ago. There was a Tacoma and a Highlander with us at the Goldmyer parking/pooping area.

[Kat]

[Backpacker Joe]

Isnt the bad slide past Goldmeyer a mile or so? TB

[Tom]

I think ML is confusing it with an earlier slide. We didn't drive past goldmyer.

[Steve]

Has the road been repaired up to the slide just past Goldmyer?

[Allison]

Tom's right, I am confused. We didn't drive past Goldmyer, but there is signage indicating the road's impassable.

[Kat]

Thanks, bummer - still probably only passable to a wrangler. Or ze motorcycle

[sculpturearts]

It'd take a hummer at least to get over the slide. The non-driveable one is about a mile from the DMTH. It's at the spot where the jeeps, forerunners, f-150s, sierra's, suburbans, all park. It's been since fall that I was there and it's probably worse now.

[aestivate]

[H. Hound]

Umm……. Have you actually been down the 7 miles of road past Dingford? If you are thinking it’s like the road to Monte Cristo, you will be in for a surprise. While there are a few short sections that are fairly good, most of the road is baseball sized rock or larger. Not to mention there are several large mud puddles that you will have to ride through. As for coasting back, that will work for the first 3 miles, then its sorta flat, followed by a short uphill grade back to Dingford.

[Kat]

[Dante]

Any update on the slides--particularly the upper one?