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Gimpilator infinity/21M
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1684 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
August 17
Mount Robie Reid - 6873'
Steven and I decided to start with Mount Robie Reid. This impressive peak rises abruptly between Golden Ears and Judge Howay. A few reports suggested 4th class or low 5th so we brought a rope. It was oppressively hot and humid, even in the early morning. I was quickly down to just shorts, but still sweating profusely. We hoped the clouds would clear in the afternoon, but it was not to be.
We followed the road down, losing a lot of elevation until we found the climbers path above Alouette Lake. We followed the path to the base of the mountain. There were some unnecessary fixed lines along the way. From the base of the mountain to the summit was roughly 6400 feet of gain, mostly in the forest. It was steep.
crossing the moat class 4 step
We came to some clean granite slabs and then made an ascending traverse on snowfields. The final snowfields was steep enough to get the axes out and there was a tricky moat at the top. After crossing the moat we climbed a class 4 step to reach more slabs above. We followed ledges until we found the base of the first crux gully. We free climbed some low 5th rock left of the rappel gully.
Steven leading 2nd crux
Above we found the second crux gully. Steven led this with minimal protection and then belayed me up. It was mostly 4th class. We were still in a whiteout and I was glad Steven had studied the route so well. We came to a notch and turned right following some exposed ramps around a false summit.
The final ridge was very pleasant and would be even better with views. On the return we rappelled the two gullies.
Robie Reid summit Stave Lake below 1st rappel 2nd rappel
August 18
Vedder Peak - 3035'
I was tired and sore after Robie Reid which surprised me because it doesn’t usually happen. Steven took the day off hiking and I went to bag some easy P2k’s. I started with Vedder and then tried to do the Canadian Sumas, but the road was closed for wildfire hazard.
August 19
Microwave Ridge aka Kafir Peak - 7592'
Steven’s friend Jeff invited us to join him and other friends for Birkenhead which happened to be on my to-do list. My Subaru made it to the end of the road, but overheated once along the way. It’s by far the steepest road I’ve ever taken my car on.
To get to Birkenhead you have to do a steep loose exposed traverse to reach the southeast ridge of Microwave Ridge which is known locally as Kafir Peak. Once on the ridge, there’s one loose gully to climb. We hiked along the crest of the ridge passing over Kafir and then I stashed my axe and helmet near the Kafir/Birkhorn col.
steep traverse Microwave Ridge
Birkenhead Peak - 8222'
Continuing to follow ridges in an S pattern we came to the small upper north facing glacier. There was some fun scrambling along these ridges. In the summit register I saw that the last person to sign was my friend Rob, a week prior. I had hoped to connect with Rob and Greg Slayden on this trip, but it didn’t work out. Birkenhead had lovely views of all the other giant peaks in the area.
Birkenhead summit Rob! Birkhorn and Microwave Truax Gandalf, Aragorn, Chism, Plutus, Cadwallader Sampson Matier, Slalok, Cirque, Cayoosh Nequatque, Marriot
Birkhorn Peak - 7336'
On the way back we decided to scramble up Birkhorn which is much easier than it looks from afar. It also has the best views of Kafir Peak. On the way back over Kafir Peak I looked high and low for my axe and helmet but couldn’t find it, even after backtracking. It’s possible that the two other guys we saw up there took it.
Birkenhead Microwave from Birkhorn Whitecap Crystal Birkhorn summit Joffre, Matier, Cayoosh
August 21
Frozen Boot Peak - 8461'
The previous day Steven showed me the MEC store in Vancouver and I bought a new axe and helmet. He said he needed a new helmet as well and bought a matching one. We hiked the rugged trail up to the Harrison hut, marveling at Pylon Peak along the way. It took us 5 hours to get to the hut and around 10am I carefully observed the sun, but no sign of the eclipse. Too far north.
We bushwhacked up behind the hut to gain the northwest ridge of Frozen Boot. After some minor scrambling we got to the summit and our first view of the Pemberton Icecap as well as Overseer. We scrambled down the southeast ridge.
Pylon Peak and Devastation Glacier Julian Harrsion hut Obelia, Polychrome, Devastator, Pylon, Job, Meager Overseer west face Frozen Boot northwest ridge summit pano with Zygo summit pano with Uriah's Heap and Overseer Frozen Boot summit Dalgleish, Lillooet, Mu, Pilon, Magaera, Alecto Pilon, Magaera, Alecto, Bridge Longspur, Golden Calf Elaho
Zygo Peak - 8606'
We crossed the glacier and climbed the northeast ridge of Zygo, which started with narrow snow and ended with rock. The views from this peak were much better than Frozen Boot. I was really taken with Elaho Mountain. Afterward we descended back to the glacier and headed over to the base of Madhorse Mountain where we made camp on the glacier.
Zygo approach northeast ridge a real pleasure Pemberton Icecap Zygo summit Elaho Zygo summit pano crossing the Madhorse Glacier camping on the icecap with Golden Calf Peak in the distance
Madhorse Mountain - 8238'
There was still enough daylight for one more peak, so we scrambled up the west ridge of Madhorse and waited on the summit to watch the sunset. I ate dinner up there. That night we were both cold even inside the 4 season tent. I woke up shivering.
Madhorse Mountain west ridge Overseer summit block Overseer waited for sunset on the summit of Madhorse Manatee, Dugong, Serenia, Wahoo Tower, Oluk, Dolphin
August 22
Overseer Mountain - 9019'
We traversed around Madhorse Mountain in the early morning, being cautious to avoid crevasses. To reach the southeast ridge of Overseer we had to scramble up terrible choss with big loose boulders. The ridge itself was narrow and exposed in places. It’s probably better to gain the ridge nearer to the peak. Going up the peak, we scrambled and climbed minor cliffs in a more or less direct line.
approaching the southeast ridge terrible choss to reach the ridge knifey and exposed in places class 4 and low 5 avoidable if you go less direct
We came to the upper shoulder and the view of the summit block rising above us was impressive. Even more awe inspiring was the expansive icecap to the south, a sea of ice and mountains rising like waves. We scrambled around the right side of the summit block, keeping it class 3.
endless mountains, overwhelming Pemberton Icecap overlooking the standard approach which we skipped Overseer summit block Spidery Peak Meager foreground Athelstan Elaho dressed for success with matching colors on Overseer summit descending choss sketchy class 4 section on dirty slabs with a deep moat below descending below the west face northeast side of Frozen Boot
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Gimpilator infinity/21M
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1684 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
Spidery Peak - 8780'
After Overseer we returned to the glacier and contoured around the base of the mountain to access Spidery Peak. This was a big drop with substantial gain to get up and over a large moraine wall. The south ridge of Spidery was chossy at the bottom but really nice clean granite above that. We found a register, but no pencil.
Spidery mostly good rock Steven on Spidery summit Spidery summit register with no pencil Pebble, Luxuria, Delilah, Sessel, Sampson Overseer north face Spider west face
Uriah's Heap - 8599'
On the way over to Uriah’s Heap we had improving views of Spidery and Overseer. In my opinion, these peaks look better from the north. The summit was a giant boulder. It was clear that the weather pattern was changing. Clouds were building and getting darker. We discussed our options. The original plan was 3 days, but descending steep off-trail in the rain was not a safe option. We agreed to hike out that night, no matter how long it took.
approaching Uriah's Heap Overseer Spidery Uriah's Heap Uriah's Heap summit Frozen Boot and Zygo on the right
Pika Peak - 8320'
We descended the edge of the glacier and then scrambled the ridge to Pika. Rain was now inevitable. I just hoped we could get below the steep brush before it hit us. We descended the long ridge north of Pika. We bushwhacked for hours in the dark. Bugs attracted by headlamp were flying up my nose and into my ears. Coming to the top of a cliff in the dark is somehow very unsettling. Steven found a way around it. We made it to the car, dry.
final glacier crossing nearing Pika Peak Pika summit Athelstan, Gothrum, Icemaker, Blockhead, Spindrift Meager, Plinth
August 25
Mount Douglas - 751'
This was primarily a ferry and driving day, however we stopped at Mount Douglas to stretch the legs and get a view. It was really awesome to see Mount Baker and Mount Olympus from a totally new vantage.
Baker barely visible Olympus beyond the city of Victoria
August 25-28
Mount Burman - 5755'
Golden Hinde is the highest peak on Vancouver Island. It’s a huge undertaking with something like 20,000 feet of accumulative. Most parties will require 4 or 5 days. Very few are lucky enough to make the summit on a clear. Our forecast looked golden, but we knew that in this region anything could happen.
The previous night after drivning from Victoria we had hiked up above Arnica Lakes to camp on the ridge. We wanted to get the initial gain done in the cooler temperatures of evening. On the morning of the 26th we hiked up over the numerous bumps along Phillips Ridge. We couldn’t tell which was highest because we were in the clouds. Not much in the way of views.
Arnica Lakes lower Phillips Ridge camp Matchlee
We hiked and scrambled down to the Phillips/Greig col and the down below the outlet of Carter Lake. The bushwhacking reported turned out to be a trail. Back up to get to Carter Lake and then over to upper Carter and then Schjelderup Lake. We lost the trail briefly at the 3rd lake. Finally we traversed some wet slabs with exposure to reach the north ridge of Mount Burman where we established camp.
Carter Lake Golden Hinde above Schjelderup Lake Schjelderup Lake The Beehinde and Golden Hinde Golden Hinde with diagonal ascent gully visible traversing slabs to Burman Ridge camp Burman Ridge camp
The sky cleared up and we had great visibility. Golden Hinde looked very impressive. Steven said he wanted to climb the nearby Beehinde after Golden Hinde. That afternoon we scrambled up Mount Burman. Steven took a direct line with a 5th class step. I tried it out but found the crux to be wet and slimy. I told him I’d meet him further up and went to explore the ledges of the west face.
Steven took a direct 5th class route up Burman, but I traversed around it becuase it was wet in the crux Matchlee and Ms Burman Tom Taylor, Big Interior Thelwood and Mariner McBride, Morrison Spire, Limestone Cap Burman summit pano south Burman summit pano north Steven on Burman summit tomorrow
Golden Hinde - 7208'
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This was it! Summit day for a peak I’ve dreamed of for years. And the weather was golden! From camp we followed the ridge down to the north and then scrambled down into Burman Chasm, then up the far side. We came to the climbers tarn and ascended the talus slope behind it, watching for the notch near the top, to the right. It was easy to find.
first light on "the hinde" Burman Lake descending into Burman Chasm climbers tarn notch where the traverse starts
From the notch we made an ascending traverse on ledges and talus slope. Some parties have made a mistake here and climbed the wrong gully too soon. You want to traverse all the way to the far side of the slope where the gully starts with some white rock. We scrambled up and then came to the permanent snowfield of 40 to 45 degrees. Steven jumped right up on the snow and started climbing fast. He’s a snow specialist of sorts.
white rock at the base of the diagonal gully permanent snowfield
I thought I’d be smart and go up inside the right hand moat. This was great for the first half, but ended with wet exposed slabs. I climbed up and out onto the snow and finished with crampons and axe. Above the snow, to the right of a notch in the ridge, was brief 4th class and then we were both in an upper gully angling more to the right. Lot’s of loose rock required caution.
The views on the summit were really mind-blowing. This island was like the Olympic Range on steroids. All around were peaks equal to the likes of Mount Constance. One could spend a lifetime’s weekends bagging peaks on Vancouver Island. And then we realized that the big peak across the water was Mount Waddington! We hung out for awhile and took it all in before returning.
summit view north, naming nearest first and furthest last, DeVoe, Piveto, Rambler, Colonel Foster, Elkhorn, Victoria nice lakes Steven on Golden Hinde summit Haig-Brown, Cobb, Filberg Mount Waddington!!! Holy F**k The Beehinde Matchlee and the ocean Elkhorn only a few meters lower than Golden Hinde Splendor and the ocean Mariner northwest face routes below Rosseau Victoria Colonel Foster Golden Hinde summit downclimbing climbers tarn with Burman behind
On the descent Steven went over to climb The Beehinde. It was hot and I had an inkling that the peak would prove to be 5th class. We didn’t have a rope and Steven is more comfortable with climbing than I am. For once, a dip in Burman Lake followed up by lazing around camp sounded more appealing.
Burman Lake
Phillips Ridge - 5676'
We started early, hoping to get as far as Phillips Ridge before the sun was up. This was going to be a long hot day. The route was the same as the way in, but this time we could see everything. We made sure to visit all the main peaks of Phillips Ridge including the east one of nearly equal height.
Schjelderup Lake The Beehinde and golden Hinde from Philips Ridge Matchlee and Ms Phillips summit pano Phillips summit pano Big Interior Phillips main peak seen from Phillips south peak Rosseau and Myra Steven on Phillips south peak summit
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Gimpilator infinity/21M
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1684 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
August 29
Our original plans for the next peaks were stymied by road closures due to wildfire risk. The alternative we chose was Quadra Island. An easy day with easy hikes to rest up sounded great. We took another ferry and started the day at Rebecca Spit. I was sitting in the car eating when I heard the unmistakable sound of whales spouting nearby. I dropped my food and ran out to the beach. Humpbacks! I was ecstatic. I tried to wake Steven from his nap, but he was groggy and hardly interested.
Rebecca Spit sunrise Coastal Range peaks Humpbacks! spout close encounter
Mount Seymour - 2031'
Our first hike was the island highpoint. We passed some small lakes and I was tempted to swim, but a local informed me that there were leeches in the water. The geology on Quadra is interesting, clearly something different in origin from the main island. We spent an hour on the summit.
dumpster diving Nugedzi Lakes have leeches Seymour summit
Mount Lolo - 715'
Steven picked out this peak while we were studying maps. We drove as close as possible, calling it quits when we came to private property. We bushwhacked to reach the trail system that goes to Maud Island. The trail allowed access to the south ridge. We bushacked up through terrible but brief tangles. Everything was covered with a thick layer of dried moss. We scrambled class 3 and 4, all covered with moss. It was weird.
bushwhacking no parking class 4 moss crux class 2 and 3 moss Steven on Mount Lolo Seymour Narrows
September 1
Brandywine Mountain - 7260'
I suspect the dumpster diving left a bad taste in Steven ‘s mouth. He got an invitation to go do Mount Alberta in the Rockies, so we bid farewell. Steven is a very accomplished alpinist. He’s already done over 600 peaks and 44 of 56 Canadian Rockies 11,000ers. His climbing blog is inspirational and I suggest you check it out.
I continued the remainder of my Coastal Range exploration solo. Next up was Brandywine Mountain. There are two trailheads, an upper and a lower. The upper trailhead saves you 1200 feet of gain but is only accessible by Jeep. I decided to see if the Subaru could handle it. I barely made it up there, dragging the bottom of the car and bumpers over rocks several times. When I saw the other vehicles in the parking lot I had to laugh at myself. I felt a sense of perverse pride parking in the line.
The hike to Brandywine Meadows was very short. I crossed the meadows and went up to the southeast ridge. There were some super gnarly peaks visible up there including one I had been looking forward to seeing with my own eyes. Mount Fee and Mount Cayley share the volcanic origins of Garibaldi but have eroded into grotesque spires of pyroclastic material.
Brandywine summit at left Brandywine Meadows Garibaldi Castle Towers, Black Tusk Tricouni with Alpha, Serratus, and Tantalus behind Mount Fee Garibaldi Ashlu Brandywine summit ahead Brandywine Pyroclastic Peak and Mount Cayley
Local lore, which I have not been able to verify as fact, claims that Fred Beckey as well as other serious climbers over the years have attempted to climb Vulcan’s Thumb without success. One thing is certain, it remains unclimbed. Maybe we should send the Assassin Spire team up there to get it done.
Serratus, Tantalus, Pelion, Ossa the southeast glacier Brandywine summit Weart, Wedge, James Turner Cayley Fee Vulcan's Thumb, Pyroclastic Peak, Cayley Vulcan's Thumb is reported to be compacted volcanic ash and pyroclast material, too steep to hold snow in winter and impossible to protect with current climbing tools
I continued to follow the ridge along the edge of the southeast glacier. The views on the summit were great, but I wanted a closer look at the Cayley peaks, so I continued west a bit further, eventually halted by a small glacier. I could see more of the glacier below Cayley now and I was a little closer to Vulcan’s Thumb.
Brandywine summit pano southwest Brandywine summit pano northeast Rhododendron and Ipsoot gnarly Fee with Pelion and Ossa behind on left Brandywine west face Fee a closer look at Caylee a closer look at Vulcan's Thumb and Pyroclastic Peak Castle Towers, Black Tusk
On the way back, right above the parking lot, I discovered a giant patch of huckleberries. I ate so many handfuls I almost made myself sick.
almost made myself sick the red ones tasted like fruit punch
September 2
Parkhurst Mountain - 8176'
This was the final day of my Canada trip. The wind was going to change and smoke would soon be filling the sky. It was also my 35th birthday, so I wanted something challenging. I decided to do Wedge Mountain as a daytrip. Wedge involves serious elevation gain and most parties require 3 days. If you do the route which avoids the glacier and goes over Parkhurst Mountain, as I was planning to do, it’s a lot of extra gain.
I started at 2:40am and made it to Wedgemount Lake just before dawn. I tried to rock hop the outlet of the lake, but slipped and soaked one boot. 100 feet lower I found that the river fans out and sinks below talus for an easy crossing. I contoured the south side of the lake and then went to the upper small basin where I found a small lake not shown on the map.
Wedgemount Lake predawn Parkhurst above the upper lake Rethel northeast face glacier feeding upper lake
I had expected the next part of the route to be navigationally challenging, but it was difficult in a way that I hadn’t expected. A lack of snow left exposed steep compacted dirt with loose rocks and boulders. To get to the Parkhurst/Rethel col you are supposed ascend steep snow ledges and ramps which work through the cliffs. But just getting up onto the first ledge was really a pain. It took me 20 minutes to figure out how to climb a steep rotten gully without launching a cascade of rocks on myself. Stemming did the trick.
route crux, took me 20 minutes to climb 50 feet of this stuff looking down, everything falls out
On the first ledge I was surprised to find that there was very little snow present. It was mostly talus. The second ledge brought me to a diagonal ramp and from there I gained the col. Rethel looked impressive from the col. Low clouds obscured most of the views of the higher peaks.
key ramp to Parkhurst/Rethel col Phalanx Rethel Rethel Wedgemount Lakes below Spearhead traverse peaks Rethel from Parkhurt Parkhurst summit with Wedge in the clouds Weart partially cloud hidden
Wedge Mountain - 9488'
I followed the northwest ridge to the summit of Parkhurst and then continued down toward the Parkhurst/Wedge saddle. When I was nearly to the saddle I saw some folks coming up from the glacier. I started talking to one of them and just about fell over when I realized it was Martin Shetter. There were two other people in the group I have also hiked with before as well as two that I’ve always wanted to hike with and one I was unfamiliar with. I couldn’t help but feel like this was some kind of birthday surprise party. I look up to this group as very experienced and it was really a pleasure to hike together on the way to the summit.
Birthday surprise! I can't believe it.
We had to drop down again and traverse below the northwest face to reach the west ridge. The northwest face was shedding rocks and boulders at intervals and we didn’t waste any time there. A direct line to the ridge crest involved a steep snow climb. I was happy to lead it despite having only carried micro-spikes while the rest of the group had crampons. It was just soft enough to kick shallow steps. We all left our axes and traction devices at the top of the snow.
leading up hard snow with micros, everyone else had crampons
The west ridge of Wedge is a lot of loose talus. You have to be careful with your footing and that you don’t send rocks down on someone. Steven had warned me that people had died from refrigerator sized rocks moving up there. We all wore helmets. I was the first on the summit. There was still a lot of cloud coverage, but I could see a fair amount. I tried to wait for the whole group to get there, but I felt the pressure of making it all the way back to the trailhead, so after a long break I started back down.
Wedge west ridge more loose blocks summit in clouds 35! summit pano during brief clearing James Turner Weart Black Tusk with Alpha, Serratus and Tantalus behind Garibaldi
I made fast time getting back to Parkhurst summit and took a few photos before descending to the col. I was sorely tempted to do Rethel, but daylight hours were now short and I knew that I would make much faster progress down in the forest with real daylight. Navigating over tree roots on the trail was slower work with a headlamp.
Wedge west wall below the west ridge Wedge north face Weart from Parkhurst summit Wedge summit zoom Rethel tempting me Wedgemount Lake outlet
At the outlet of the lake a helicopter flew over me heading toward where I left the group. It worried me that maybe there had been an accident, but later I found out that they were all ok. I made it most of the way down before dark and only used the headlamp for the last half-hour.
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raising3hikers Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 2343 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, Wa |
those are some nice looking mtns up there! thanks for sharing
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Jim Dockery Member
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Way to get after it, that's a whole lotta peaks!
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RichP Member
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Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:57 pm
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Excellent.
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olderthanIusedtobe Member
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Wow, you saw a lot of amazing places up there it looks like! I know I don't know Canada very well...but I'm just at a loss trying to take it all in. If you run out of peaks in Washington to climb our neighbors to the north can keep you busy for quite a while.
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Gimpilator infinity/21M
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1684 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
olderthanIusedtobe wrote: | Wow, you saw a lot of amazing places up there it looks like! I know I don't know Canada very well...but I'm just at a loss trying to take it all in. If you run out of peaks in Washington to climb our neighbors to the north can keep you busy for quite a while. |
The feeling of being at a loss is exactly what I experience every time I go up there. It's totally baffling how much there is to explore in the Coastal Range. It really drives home the point of how short life is.
Imagine the best of the North Cascades. Imagine what it must have been like hundreds of years ago when large glaciers still flowed down into valleys. Now add to that numerous icecaps and multiply the total land area by 100. That's the Coastal Range. A lot of peaks in remote areas have very few or no ascents and would require real expeditions.
Now here is the kicker. For someone living in the Seattle area, many of the good peaks in the southern end of the range require less driving time than going to the east side of the Cascades. Something to think about.
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Thanks for the great trip Adam. Once the rain really starts to fall hopefully I can catch my own trip reports up.
Just came back from a successful ascent of the Japanese Route on Mt. Alberta (Alpine V, 5.6).. By no doubt the biggest prize of the 11,000ers of Canadian Rockies. Will have to work on that trip report first though..
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Snidely Whiplash Member
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That is just inspirational! Wedge, Parkhurst, Rethel in a day???? I don't know how you do it, but my hat's off to you. Great views. Makes me jealous about Brandywine. We couldn't see nearly what you could due to all of the smoke. That's been the name of the game this summer I guess.
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Terrific report! I would have been with Matt, Don, Carla & co. if I hadn't just been up there a few days prior. You are so right about the Coast range- so heavily glaciated compared to our N. Cascades. So many mountains, so little time!
And your pics are great too! Every.single.one.
Thanks for the write up!
'we don't have time for a shortcut'
'we don't have time for a shortcut'
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More awesome reporting on awesome trips! Thanks for putting this together. The Overseer, what a peak!
The report was so good, I am going to ask you do more reporting work. Have you ever thought about aggregating all of your nwhikers reports in some kind of index? It would be really useful to everyone that follows your adventures or wants to follow in your footsteps. Maybe an alphabetical page that links the related nkhikers forum page?
Something to do if you get bored or stuck at home.
Thanks again!!
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