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PostWed Dec 05, 2018 12:51 pm 
timberghost wrote:
https://vimeo.com/302332804
Well done overview of the issues concerning wolf reintroduction and wolf management. Unfortunately the vast majority of the "pro wolf" constituency isn't willing or able to listen to or consider facts - they are willing and capable only of listening to and regurgitating the propaganda perpetuated by "pro wolf" groups like Defenders of Wildlife and Center for Biological Diversity - analogous to the "Flat Earth Society" members who insist there's no such thing as "global warming" or "climate change".

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PostThu Dec 06, 2018 6:03 am 
True, I know it was a different time but wonder why when there was a bounty, emphasis on trapping and even poisoning in the 19**'s on wolves back then. Was it more of a hunting environment or was there human threats or a combo of many things.

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PostFri Dec 07, 2018 10:09 am 
Yet again, although in vain, again, I will post a book that is an excellent read about a guy who lived in the Alaskan bush and grew to know the habits of wolves quite well. It is well written and not boring. It'll tell you what you want to hear and what you don't want to hear about wolves. If I remember correctly, the guy starts out as a fur/bounty trapper and ends his career helping to do studies for Fish and Wildlife on wolves. It's a good read for dark winter days and is also educational. I found it at a library. https://www.amazon.com/Alaskas-Wolf-Man-Wilderness-Adventures/dp/1575100479

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PostMon Dec 10, 2018 4:21 pm 
Monday December 10, 2018 15:07 PST WDFW WILDLIFE PROGRAM Video message on wolves from WDFW Director Kelly Susewind Kelly Susewind, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife director, talks about the agency's approach to wolf conservation and management in a recent short video statement. Please visit our website to learn more: wdfw.wa.gov. -WDFW-

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PostTue Dec 11, 2018 11:45 am 
Tuesday December 11, 2018 10:19 PST WDFW WILDLIFE PROGRAM Gray Wolf Update A new update on wolf activities is available on the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife’s website HERE
WDFW, in its Wolf update of 12/11/18 wrote:
On October 28, 2018, a livestock producer found an injured cow on a U.S. Forest Service grazing allotment in the Grouse Flats wolf pack territory. WDFW staff investigated the injuries and confirmed they were caused by one or more wolves from the Grouse Flats pack. This is the third confirmed wolf depredation in four months by the Grouse Flats pack. In this incident, the cow was limping and favoring its right front shoulder and leg. There were fresh puncture marks to the shoulder accompanied by hemorrhaging and swelling. There were bite wounds to the right rear high on the quarter and inside of the leg. The lower inside of the right front leg showed signs of trauma. The injuries appeared to be less than a few days old. The first confirmed depredation occurred on August 23, 2018 in a fenced private pasture within the Grouse Flats pack territory and resulted in severe injuries to a 200-pound heifer calf. The calf had a puncture and tooth scrape on its front shoulder. On the rear flank, there was another puncture wound and adjacent tooth scrape. On the calf’s rear extending into the groin area, there were two large tears leaving an open wound with torn hide and exposed muscle tissue. Because of the nature of the wounds and their location on the calf, WDFW staff determined the injuries were caused by a wolf. The second confirmed depredation occurred on September 2, 2018 and involved a 600-pound calf that was chased out of a U.S. Forest Service allotment onto an adjacent private pasture where it was killed and partially consumed. The calf had severe tissue loss and damage including hemorrhaging on the lower side of both hindquarters continuing into the groin area. The hide from the lower hindquarters showed hemorrhaging and puncture wounds. There was also hemorrhaging behind the front left shoulder. The lower 6-8 inches of the hide on the tail were split and removed from the tail bone, accompanied by hemorrhaging and tooth scrapes at the base of the tail. WDFW staff investigated the depredation site and conducted a full necropsy on the carcass. The damage to the calf was consistent with a wolf depredation. Staff located multiple fresh wolf tracks near the carcass as well. WDFW staff determined the kill was caused by a wolf or wolves with evidence present. Producer 1 grazes cattle solely on private, fenced pastures in the Grouse Flats area and used the following proactive wolf deterrence measures: 1.Deployed range riders on a semi-daily basis to monitor cattle in fenced private pastures. 2.Increased human presence in areas with reported wolf activity or sign. 3.Moved cattle to avoid core wolf areas. 4.Removed sick or injured livestock from the pastures. 5.Maintained sanitation by removing livestock carcasses from the pastures. Producer 2 grazes cattle on a U.S. Forest Service grazing allotment in the Grouse Flats area and used the following proactive wolf deterrence measures: 1.Deployed range riders on a semi-daily basis to monitor cattle on the grazing allotment. 2.Increased human presence in areas with reported wolf activity or sign. 3.Delayed turnout of cattle to avoid core wolf use areas (the original turnout was scheduled for June 23, 2018 but was delayed until July 13, 2018). 4.Removed sick or injured livestock from the allotment. 5.Maintained sanitation by removing livestock carcasses from the allotment. Producer 3 grazes cattle on a U.S. Forest Service grazing allotment in the Grouse Flats area and used the following proactive wolf deterrence measures: 1.Deployed range riders on a semi-daily basis to monitor cattle on his USFS allotment. 2.Increased human presence in areas with reported wolf activity or sign. 3.Removed sick or injured livestock from the allotment. 4.Maintained sanitation by removing livestock carcasses from the allotment. Packs Referenced: Grouse Flats Last Updated: Dec. 11, 2018 10:07 AM
-WDFW- (* emphasis added *)

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PostTue Dec 11, 2018 11:47 am 
Anybody want to set up a betting pool and put money on how long it will be before WDFW has to go in and take out the entire Grouse Flats pack?

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PostTue Dec 11, 2018 5:47 pm 
Apparently the pack can't figure out the boundaries between public and private land. We shall see if it made tomorrow's paper.

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PostThu Dec 20, 2018 7:24 am 
Tuesday December 18, 2018 17:57 PST WDFW WILDLIFE PROGRAM Wolf Advisory Group Meeting This is a notice to inform the public that the next Wolf Advisory Group (WAG) meeting will be held February 12-13, 2019. The meeting will take place at the Meetinghouse at Priest Point, 3201 Boston Harbor Road NE, Olympia, WA, 98506. There will also be an open-house style public comment period on Feb. 12 from 11:00 a.m. to 12:45 p.m. prior to the WAG work session. A meeting agenda will be posted to the Wolf Advisory Group page on the department’s website. The WAG work session will open to the public to observe and will follow the same format used in the past, including public comment opportunities at the end of each day. -WDFW-

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PostThu Dec 20, 2018 11:43 pm 
This seems relevant. For the first time in years one of my trail cameras got a grey wolf standing on the Middle Fork road. No pack -- just the one animal.
Grey wolf standing on the Middle Fork road on 11/24/2018
Grey wolf standing on the Middle Fork road on 11/24/2018

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PostFri Dec 21, 2018 5:57 am 
Well maybe its just one wolf that moves on

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PostSun Dec 23, 2018 9:28 am 
Thursday December 20, 2018 11:57 PST WDFW WILDLIFE PROGRAM Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife 600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091 wildthing@dfw.wa.gov Gray Wolf Update A new update on wolf activities is available on the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife’s website HERE
WDFW, in its 'Wolf Update' of 12/20/18 wrote:
Confirmed wolf depredation on Chiliwist Unit of Sinlahekin Wildlife Area On Nov. 27, a livestock owner’s employee rounded up cattle including a 400-pound calf from Department of Natural Resources land. The employee moved the livestock to WDFW land, which is customarily used in the fall as a gathering site as cattle transition to private land. When the employee returned to collect cattle midday on Nov. 28, the calf was found dead. Upon receiving the report that evening, WDFW staff asked the producer’s employee to return to the site, cover the carcass with a tarp to preserve evidence, and install a trail camera. At approximately 7 p.m., the employee and a neighbor returned to the site with a tarp and a trail camera. At that time, they saw an animal running from the carcass, but it was too dark for identification. On Nov. 29, external examination of the calf indicated bite lacerations on the left hind leg. Skinning the carcass revealed subcutaneous hemorrhaging, damage to the muscle tissue, and bite puncture wounds on the left hind leg, left front shoulder, and left front leg. Wolf tracks were found adjacent to the dead calf. The evidence indicated one wolf involved in the incident; no collared wolves were present in the area at the time of the depredation. Based on the available evidence, WDFW classified the event as a confirmed wolf depredation and later deployed a trail camera in the area to document any wolf activity near the site. There have been no confirmed livestock depredations by wolves in this area prior to this incident. In an effort to reduce the likelihood of future conflict, the livestock producer removed the carcass from the area and removed the remaining cattle to private land. The livestock producer and WDFW have an excellent working relationship and will continue to work cooperatively to mitigate conflict as they have done previously. Last Updated: Dec. 20, 2018 11:54 AM
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PostMon Jan 07, 2019 11:51 am 
Friday January 04, 2019 16:14 PST WDFW WILDLIFE PROGRAM Gray Wolf Update A new update on wolf activities is available on the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife’s website HERE
WDFW, in its Wolf Update of 01/04/19 wrote:
This report provides information about wolf conservation and management activities undertaken by the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) from December 1-31, 2018 Statewide Wolf Capture, Survey, and Management Wolf surveys Wolf biologists surveyed for tracks and placed remote cameras in the Sherman, Skookum, Lookout, Skagit, and Five Sisters pack areas this past month. This is the beginning of the annual survey effort to assess the minimum number of wolves in Washington. They also surveyed in areas with recent wolf reports outside of known pack territories in the Methow and areas south of I-90 to try and locate recent wolf sign. Any reports of remote camera images, videos, wolf tracks, or sightings from the public are incredibly helpful to assist in locating new wolf activity and potential new packs on the landscape. Please take photos of wolves or wolf sign with some way to measure the size of the track and upload them to WDFW’s wolf reporting page. Stakeholder engagement On Dec. 8-9, department staff members met with a diversity of stakeholders in Republic to discuss wolf-livestock conflict, data sharing, wolf collaring and monitoring, outreach, and potential predator impacts to ungulates. Director Susewind and Wolf Policy Lead Donny Martorello also attended a Q and A session hosted by the Cattle Producers of Washington on the evening of Dec. 9. On Dec. 16-17, department staff members met with the Wolf Advisory Group (WAG) in Spokane. The meeting agenda, flip chart notes, and meeting notes are available on the department’s WAG webpage. Regional Updates Ferry, Stevens, and Pend Oreille counties No new information this month. Okanogan County On Nov. 27, a livestock owner’s employee rounded up cattle, including a 400-pound calf, from Washington Department of Natural Resources land. The employee moved the livestock to WDFW land, which is customarily used in the fall as a gathering site as cattle transition to private land. When the employee returned to collect cattle midday on Nov. 28, the calf was found dead. Upon receiving the report that evening, WDFW asked the producer’s employee to return to the site, cover the carcass with a tarp to preserve evidence, and install a trail camera. At approximately 7:00 p.m., the employee and a neighbor returned to the site with a tarp and a trail camera. At that time, they saw an animal running from the carcass, but it was too dark for identification. On Nov. 29, external examination of the calf indicated bite lacerations on the left hind leg. Skinning the carcass revealed subcutaneous hemorrhaging, damage to the muscle tissue, and bite puncture wounds on the left hind leg, left front shoulder, and left front leg. Wolf tracks were found adjacent to the dead calf. The evidence indicated that one wolf was involved in the incident. No collared wolves were present in the area at the time of the depredation. Based on the available evidence, WDFW classified the event as a confirmed wolf depredation and later deployed a trail camera in the area to document any wolf activity near the site. There were no confirmed livestock depredations by wolves in this area prior to this incident. In an effort to reduce the likelihood of future conflict, the livestock producer removed the carcass from the area and removed the remaining cattle to private land. The livestock producer and WDFW have an excellent working relationship and will continue to work cooperatively to mitigate conflict as they have done previously. Walla Walla, Columbia, Garfield, and Asotin counties In December, the majority of the cattle producers in WDFW District 3 moved their cattle to protected pastures and feed lots for winter calving and feeding. There was an increase in reports of wolf sightings and track observations this month. Wildlife conflict specialists monitored these reports and worked with producers to help implement proactive nonlethal deterrents. The conflict specialists also worked closely with producers to get final counts as cattle were moved to lower elevations. There were no reported depredations in the month of December. Kittitas County Permit grazing for cattle and sheep has ended for the season in the Teanaway pack’s known territory. •No wolf-livestock incidents were reported or suspected in December. •A RAG (radio-activated guard) box is in place at a location on the eastern edge of the pack’s territory as a precaution to protect cattle on private land. Packs Referenced: Five Sisters, Lookout, Sherman, Skookum, Teanaway Last Updated: Jan. 4, 2019 3:42 PM
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PostWed Jan 09, 2019 7:51 am 
They are in Colyfonia now. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/jan/09/its-tough-sleeping-at-night-ranchers-seek-to-protect-herds-as-wolves-move-in

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PostMon Jan 14, 2019 6:33 am 
Here is what it all boils down to!!! “People in urban areas get excited,” said Vardaman, now with the advocacy group Defenders of Wildlife. “But they’re not impacted when wolves return.”

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