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PostMon Jun 06, 2022 9:03 pm 
I don't have summer photos of Cambell Basin, but here are some mid August photos from Silver Basin, just a stone's throw away (and also within the ski area boundary). It gives you an idea of just how lush, verdant, and flower filled the terrain is where Crystal is sprawling these glamping tents across.


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PostTue Jun 07, 2022 10:29 am 
Alta, those photos are beautiful. Really cool to see Silver Basin in the summer.

I did some digging on the Crystal Sky Camp's website and their sustainability page does talk about the camp trying to minimize its footprint in the alpine.

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Tent positioning and subsequent impacts are important considerations as the Crystal Sky Camp build begins. Campbell Basin is naturally an open area with mostly bare ground, which is ideal placement for these elevated wooden platforms that minimally affect the land. Using high-quality, USA-made materials, tents are built on durable surfaces so as not to harm vegetation. Dedicated green spaces will be closed to public, with signs and friendly reminders for guests to stay on trails only. Low level lighting mitigates light pollution and amplifies the night sky. Every design choice is made with intention.

Under Canvas camps are designed to minimize disturbance and maximize open space, each with dedicated, undisturbed green spaces. Land donations to the Forest Service, adaptive use, and partnerships with local conservation based organizations are also part of our commitment.

It's good that having a small footprint is part of their overall design philosophy. I am curious if the USFS inspects the camp to ensure that regulations and best practices were followed, or if the USFS either lacks the resources to do so or trusts Crystal to do the right thing?

Their website also has lots of pictures of what the camp looked like last year. It appears that the tents are elevated which is good, and also that they have blocked-off footpaths to at least contain foot traffic to specific corridors:


Clearly, some amount of alpine vegetation is going to be trampled in any sort of scenario here. That doesn't seem great, but on the other hand if the Crystal Sky Camp is taking lots of steps to minimize the impact and not very many people hike here, so if any place is going to see something like this again this feels like a good place for it.

Edit: I'm removing my long tangent about treatment of alpine vegetation on hikes between the PNW and New England, not relevant enough to this discussion

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PostTue Jun 07, 2022 1:26 pm 
If the camp were located in Silver Basin I would probably be upset. But Campbell Basin is quite trammeled/developed already. The photo taken from REX is why I don't hike or camp in Campbell Basin and can't get too upset about these tents:


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PostTue Jun 07, 2022 1:29 pm 
kiliki wrote:
If the camp were located in Silver Basin I would probably be upset. But Campbell Basin is quite trammeled/developed already. The photo taken from REX is why I don't hike or camp in Campbell Basin and can't get too upset about these tents:


That photo is from Chair 6 not rex, but I think your point stands that if the basin already has a huge lodge and multiple chairlifts running through it, it's hard to argue that these tents are the primary force harming near-wilderness character.

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PostWed Jun 08, 2022 7:55 am 
Looks like sky camp runs $1,000 to $1,500 a night.

Does that make it the most expensive place to stay in the entire state?

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PostWed Jun 08, 2022 12:51 pm 
altasnob wrote:
Looks like sky camp runs $1,000 to $1,500 a night.

Does that make it the most expensive place to stay in the entire state?

Certainly the most expensive where the facilities aren't "ensuite".

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PostThu Jun 09, 2022 11:50 am 
altasnob wrote:
Crystal has set up a bunch of canvas "glamping" tents at 6,000 feet around Cambell Basin lodge so Amazon and Microsoft can hold corporate retreats there. Since it is National Forest Land, there is nothing they can do if someone wants to go pitch their tent in the middle of the camp.

https://crystalskycamp.com/

I'm almost certain this is false.

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PostThu Jun 09, 2022 4:32 pm 
There are hotel rooms in Seattle that are more than that. This is the Four Seasons:


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