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PostMon Jul 04, 2022 8:16 am 
avian flue,monkeypox,covid19.....

Not Just for the Birds: Avian Influenza Is Also Felling Wild Mammals

As a new version of bird flu spread through North America this spring, scientists began finding the virus in red foxes, bobcats and other mammals.
At least seven U.S. states have detected the virus in red fox kits, to which the pathogen appeared to be particularly lethal. Two bobcats in Wisconsin, a coyote pup in Michigan and skunks in Canada have also tested positive for the virus, as have foxes, otters, a lynx, a polecat and a badger in Europe

as of july 1 460 cases in 30 states have been reported with monkeypox..

and the covid19 virus is again on the rise in many states.

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PostMon Jul 04, 2022 9:44 am 
Disease is fake, it's a conspirathy.

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PostMon Jul 04, 2022 9:58 am 
My cat ate a bird, nearly did him in, he is pretty much back to normal now 2 weeks later.

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PostMon Jul 04, 2022 9:55 pm 
Melting glaciers worldwide are spewing out unspecified quantities of long dormant viruses and other pathogens.

Last year, scientists announced the discovery of 33 viruses in ice and snow samples collected from glaciers. Now another study found almost 1,000 species of bacteria in similar samples.

Most of those microorganisms, which survived because they had remained frozen, are unlike any microorganisms that have been cataloged to date.

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PostTue Jul 05, 2022 9:45 am 
^ lovely.

always enjoy reading news that there's even more as-yet-undiscovered stuff out there that wants to kill me. up.gif

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PostTue Jul 05, 2022 1:16 pm 
Yet another reason for me to avoid glaciers. I hope y'all glacier goers are vaxxed and wearing your mask and gloves...don't forget the hand sanitizer and TP as well.

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PostTue Jul 05, 2022 4:22 pm 
currently the avian flu h5n1 has infected and killed seals, pelicans, geese, chickens, turkeys, and now reports of concern indicate that family pets may also be infected, dogs and cats.....wella wella now come to think of it
wasnt the main reason for the movie "planet of the apes" was because a virus had killed all the dogs and cats and the humans had turned to adopting monkeys (apes of one kind or other)...prophetic??????

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PostWed Jul 06, 2022 7:48 pm 
the monkeypox status

june 22 142 first infected
june 29 341 number infected 27 number of states infected and dc
july 1    460 number infected 30 number of states infected and dc
july 5    560 number infected 34 number of states infected and dc puerto rico
july 6    605 number infected 36 number of states infected and dc puerto rico

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PostWed Jul 06, 2022 8:24 pm 
Monkeypox has been around for a while -- the data on it indicates that is unlikely to develop into a wide spread issue.

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Data collected in the Democratic Republic of the Congo during 1980–1984 5,8 show that R for the Congo basin clade of monkeypox at that time was 0.32 (uncertainty bounds 0.22–0.40) .9

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7463189/#:~:text=country%20beyond%201980.-,Data%20collected%20in%20the%20Democratic%20Republic%20of%20the%20Congo%20during,uncertainty%20bounds%200.22%E2%80%930.40).

The R factor for COVID is many times higher than Monkey Pox

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compared 12 studies published from January 1 to February 7, 2020, have estimated R0 ranging from 1.5 to 6.68. They found a final mean and median value of 3.28 and 2.79, respectively, with an interquartile range of 1.16.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7751056/#:~:text=R0%20of%20COVID%2D19,-R0%20of&text=compared%2012%20studies%20published%20from,an%20interquartile%20range%20of%201.16.

Measles is far more infectious than either MonkeyPox or COVID

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For measles, R0 is often cited to be 12–18, which means that each person with measles would, on average, infect 12–18 other people in a totally susceptible population.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/318751687_The_basic_reproduction_number_R0_of_measles_A_systematic_review

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PostWed Jul 06, 2022 8:53 pm 
I've heard that measles can be infectious a room away. Now that I've written that, it's fact on the internet! Remember, it all started on NWhikers.

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PostWed Jul 06, 2022 10:03 pm 
I heard you can get Monkeypox over the internet also.

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PostWed Jul 06, 2022 11:00 pm 
Chief Joseph wrote:
Yet another reason for me to avoid glaciers….

I avoid glaciers - and especially those with previous monkey visitation - at all costs!  One just can not be too careful!

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PostWed Jul 06, 2022 11:41 pm 
Randito wrote:
Monkeypox has been around for a while -- the data on it indicates that is unlikely to develop into a wide spread issue.

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Data collected in the Democratic Republic of the Congo during 1980–1984 5,8 show that R for the Congo basin clade of monkeypox at that time was 0.32 (uncertainty bounds 0.22–0.40) .9

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7463189/#:~:text=country%20beyond%201980.-,Data%20collected%20in%20the%20Democratic%20Republic%20of%20the%20Congo%20during,uncertainty%20bounds%200.22%E2%80%930.40).

That ^^^ calculation is in the context of a high rate of smallpox vaccination coverage and previous circulation of the smallpox virus (both of which generate efficient cross reactive immune protection against the orthopox viruses that infect humans
>> e.g., cowpox/smallpox).  Smallpox vaccination ended in the US in the early 70's and worldwide in the 80's.  The cited paper comes to a different conclusion than "unlikely to develop into a widespread issue":


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PostThu Jul 07, 2022 6:50 pm 
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/monkeypox

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