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ALW Hiker lakebagger
Joined: 27 Jul 2021 Posts: 120 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond, WA |
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Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:50 pm
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Cam, RichP, Now I Fly Anne Elk, rubywrangler, fourteen410 HikingBex
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zephyr aka friendly hiker
Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 3370 | TRs | Pics Location: West Seattle |
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Tue Dec 13, 2022 6:05 pm
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ALW Hiker wrote: | Thank you to Roly Poly and all the other people who spent their time and energy trying to help the dogs! |
Yes, indeed. This has been very worrying to many of us. Roly Poly went above and beyond to rescue these dogs from a miserable winter's night or two on their own.
Thank you ALW for bringing the good news and update. ~z
Roly Poly
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fourteen410 Member
Joined: 23 May 2008 Posts: 2628 | TRs | Pics
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So glad to hear they are safe. We were just getting ready to head out to Deer Creek, so thank you for the update.
Roly Poly
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Mike Collins Member
Joined: 18 Dec 2001 Posts: 3096 | TRs | Pics
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Just got back home from visiting the winter end of Mountain Loop Highway where I didn’t see the dogs of course. Glad to know they are back home safely.
Roly Poly
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7701 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Ryan Martin is a FS Marshall out on the loop, might have been him, he is a great guy and takes his job very seriously, and is also very fair, sounds like it might have been him assisting with the dog recovery.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
ALW Hiker, Roly Poly
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
ALW Hiker, Roly Poly
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Bootpathguy Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 Posts: 1788 | TRs | Pics Location: United States |
It's 5 miles from Silverton to Kelcema Lake trailhead
Country dogs doing what country dogs do!
Relax folks!
Experience is what'cha get, when you get what'cha don't want
Experience is what'cha get, when you get what'cha don't want
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kiliki Member
Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Posts: 2324 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
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Wed Dec 14, 2022 8:35 am
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Bootpathguy Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 Posts: 1788 | TRs | Pics Location: United States |
Not directing this question to you directly, but curious to know how many people who practice, support, or encourage off leash dogs @ trailheads and on trails, support County leash laws.
Yes I'm being argumentative. These dogs owners may have lived on or near the MLH their entire lives. Have had dog companions their entire lives. Have never fenced their dogs.
Sit down for this next comment...
Don't allow their dogs inside ( Gasp!!! )
Have always allowed their dogs to roam. Alot of dog owners do this in very rural areas.
Anyway, keep feeding these dogs there @ the trailhead, and see what happens
Experience is what'cha get, when you get what'cha don't want
Experience is what'cha get, when you get what'cha don't want
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Randito Snarky Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 9512 | TRs | Pics Location: Bellevue at the moment. |
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Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:26 am
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FWIW: I did a 5 day hut ski tour in British Columbia a few years ago. The trailhead is adjacent to some houses. At the trailhead we were greeted by a pair of large friendly dogs that appeared to be some sort of mixed breed that include malmute. They followed us six miles to the hut. They hung out around the hut for three days , sleeping outside on the snow and being fed left overs by other hut users. They could not be lured into the hut, despite repeated efforts by other hut users concerned that the dogs would get cold sleeping outside. When the group of other hut users that had been feeding them leftovers headed out , the dogs followed them out. When we returned to the trailhead, they came out from one of the houses and greeted us again. We waved at a human at the house.
Some dogs strongly prefer human food leftovers over kibble.
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huron Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 1035 | TRs | Pics
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Wed Dec 14, 2022 10:28 am
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Dogs are not wild animals. Setting aside leash laws and rural vs urban pet practices, we can probably all agree that the welfare of both the animal and of people using trails is the primary concern. People DO abandon and neglect pets. They also leave them uncontrolled to the point where they cause others trouble. This owner was negligent in that regard and should not own a dog.
Anne Elk, fourteen410, kitya
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7701 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Bootpathguy wrote: | Not directing this question to you directly, but curious to know how many people who practice, support, or encourage off leash dogs @ trailheads and on trails, support County leash laws.
Yes I'm being argumentative. These dogs owners may have lived on or near the MLH their entire lives. Have had dog companions their entire lives. Have never fenced their dogs.
Sit down for this next comment...
Don't allow their dogs inside ( Gasp!!! )
Have always allowed their dogs to roam. Alot of dog owners do this in very rural areas.
Anyway, keep feeding these dogs there @ the trailhead, and see what happens |
True. A good example is a Great Pyrenees, they will sometimes be gone for days chasing down a coyote....I was returning home from Idaho once and there was a GP and her two pups waiting to cross I-90....my daughter was so mad that I didn't stop and try to rescue them. There were farmhouses with a half mile of them. Probably on a training mission.
As to the dog on Deer creek road, the nearest residences are at Silverton and there are a few year around residents, but I would think it unlikely that they would let their dogs run up and down the highway. So the owners were found, where did they live?
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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SpookyKite89 Member
Joined: 07 Jul 2021 Posts: 79 | TRs | Pics Location: Mountain Loop |
One day on the way home from the mountain loop this summer a giant dog jumped out in front of my car. Husky looking pup. I stopped to see what was up and he jumped into my car, much to the chagrin of my own dog. When I looked at him, he had a collar that just said something like “mountain loop highway, do not take me”. I tried to lure him onto some property because we were right on a turn in the road and if I almost hit him, someone else surely would. Finally an annoyed neighbor came out and said she knew who owned the dog and would watch him.
Gotta love the mountain loop.
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huron Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 1035 | TRs | Pics
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Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:58 pm
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Sounds like there is disagreement about the ethics of freee range dogs. I'm not a fan of leash laws and agree that there is a difference between the size of a dog's range urban vs rural, but if a dog is running in a road a distance from its home and without owner supervision, there is certainly danger for both the dog and a driver. I wouldn't hesitate to turn one in to a shelter or animal control if found, particularly if it has no owner ID.
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Bootpathguy Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2015 Posts: 1788 | TRs | Pics Location: United States |
There are a couple of posted signs on the Teanaway North Fork Rd. Lots of big properties there
"Slow. Dog X ing"
"Caution. Dog X ing"
If you are driving down that road and hit a dog, you the driver, are being very careless & irresponsible
Those property owners have no obligation to you to leash or fence their dogs.
My Brother has a long driveway off McNeil Canyon Road. 13 acres. McNeil Canyon has its fair share of auto traffic. He has 2 dog companions that he allows to roam freely. They are not allowed inside the house. They ate not allowed inside the cab of thr truck. They jump into the bed of the truck unrestrained. Let's them chase deer, coyotes, foxes & rabbits. Alot of the time he doesn't even know where they are. A sharp whistle always brings them home.
Both dogs got into trouble with a juvenile cougar one time & 1 got bit by a rattlesnake. Suffered for a couple days and then returned to normal activity. My brother loves his dogs. They are kind and gentle but they are tough!
This is very common practice for dog owners who live in rural areas. This is what country dogs do.
Experience is what'cha get, when you get what'cha don't want
mosey
Experience is what'cha get, when you get what'cha don't want
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7701 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
My grandpa in ND would not allow any animals in the house. We had a couple of barn cats and once in a while one would sneak inside. He would toss them outside head over heels while cussing the entire time.
We had a German Shepherd dog and my parents would wait until they thought he was asleep and sneak him inside and into their upstairs bedroom, gramps slept downstairs. I mean in winter 30 below zero is common there, if one doesn't want a pet indoors then they should not have one in that environment.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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