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| RumiDude wrote: | | As near as I can tell, the cubs are either deported - like the ones in Leavenworth a while back - or euthanized along with the sow. If there is any evidence that yearlings have ever "learned" anything at all from witnessing the elimination of their sow, I would be fascinated! |
I didn't find much of anything either. There was an abstact I read which hinted at something but was soo vague I could not tell. The full article was behind a paywall. It was by Dale R. McCullough from 1982, and in a journal collection. The original was published in the Wildlife Society Bulletin.
I have not studied those that study bears, but I have studied zoologists. Studies of large dangerous animals is difficult and requires long periods of study. This especially applies to solitary apex predators. The zoologists are generally very good at writing up the facts of their observations but then often resort to intuition and best guess when interpreting their their observations. Therein lies the main weakness of many bear behavioral experts.
Grizzly bears are like all other mammals, they have individual personalities and dispositions. The basics of personality is inherited and then reinforced by the mother until it leaves to be on it's own. Some are aggressive, some are shy, some are inquisitive, some are reticent, etc. Regardless, there are no guarantees when it comes to bears or people, or any other animal for that matter.
Here is a 1997 article in the Spokesman-Review (copied from the NYT) that indicates that for the most part, grizzly bears/human interactions in Yellowstone NP and Glacier NP are fairly controlled. From the article: | Quote: | | The parks keep track of bear sightings, especially close encounters. If a bear is behaving aggressively, a trail is closed until the bear moves on. If a bear begins to lose its fear of humans and wanders into places frequented by people, the goal is to restore that fear quickly. Park rangers yell at bears, make loud noises and even shoot the offending animals with rubber bullets and bean bags. |
Right on imo.
And that last quote illustrates the short coming of the current management "protocols"(?). Shooting an animal with rubber bullets or bean bags leaves a lasting impression I would guess. Unfortunately, in my somewhat limited knowledge (I cannot read their minds), I wonder if these bears with individual personalities might need more than a humbling experience. That is, might they remember that humans antagonized them? I think this is most likely. As such, the occasional problem bear becomes the bully looking for a fight to prove themselves. This is speculation for sure, and not helping the argument for "coexistence" either. But imagine if there were a way to identify these bears (There is. They are the repeat offenders) and smack them down in nature's way with an audience of another bear(s). As I said, nature is brutal. Imagine being a male bear running into another male bear in that bear's territory while he smells a female bear in heat. Or any bear protecting a kill it is feeding on.
It is my contention that we need to protect our own in that vein to teach bears which species is really at the apex. And by doing so we might be able to justify NOT driving the grizzly species into extinction.
We need to meet the problem bears in their arena with our technology and demonstrate our absolute dominance in the presence of other bears we would not deem to be problem bears. The surviving bear(s) would remember this encounter if my mentors are correct. And they would teach their offspring the same absolute fear of humans.
The political environment does not permit this kind of open brutality. So while it might be acknowledged in private conversations, no one would risk their livelihood on proposing such an "inhumane" solution. And I doubt their sacrifice would be productive if they did.
So we continue to meet bears in their domain on their terms and then blame the problems on their behavior instead of on our own. We do this in spite of our clear intellectual superiority. In my opinion that is anthropomorphizing bears. We expect them to respond as we would whereas the true problem bears, the true alpha bears who have successfully ensured the survival of the species until now, are not intelligent enough to realize they no longer possess the upper hand. Absolute fear of humans would have to be demonstrated over generations. And the brutality would have to be continued just enough to ensure continued compliance. To be "less brutal" or "less like bears" or "more humane" only prolongs the problem as we inch toward their extinction.
Let the firestorm rage.
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Anything done to have bears fearful of man will cost money and doubtful if the feds would foot the bill.
In NE Wa the WDFW run cougars with dogs to condition them to be fearful of man. First time they collar them and track their location. I believe after 5 times of being run by dogs and trees they remove the collar. There's a. U tube video called Living with cougars in Wa State. But again that costs money
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| DadFly wrote: | Quote Options
Tue Dec 06, 2022 9:30 pm DadFly wrote:
| RumiDude wrote: | | As near as I can tell, the cubs are either deported - like the ones in Leavenworth a while back - or euthanized along with the sow. If there is any evidence that yearlings have ever "learned" anything at all from witnessing the elimination of their sow, I would be fascinated! |
I didn't find much of anything either. There was an abstact I read which hinted at something but was soo vague I could not tell. The full article was behind a paywall. It was by Dale R. McCullough from 1982, and in a journal collection. The original was published in the Wildlife Society Bulletin.
I have not studied those that study bears, but I have studied zoologists. Studies of large dangerous animals is difficult and requires long periods of study. This especially applies to solitary apex predators. The zoologists are generally very good at writing up the facts of their observations but then often resort to intuition and best guess when interpreting their their observations. Therein lies the main weakness of many bear behavioral experts.
Grizzly bears are like all other mammals, they have individual personalities and dispositions. The basics of personality is inherited and then reinforced by the mother until it leaves to be on it's own. Some are aggressive, some are shy, some are inquisitive, some are reticent, etc. Regardless, there are no guarantees when it comes to bears or people, or any other animal for that matter.
Here is a 1997 article in the Spokesman-Review (copied from the NYT) that indicates that for the most part, grizzly bears/human interactions in Yellowstone NP and Glacier NP are fairly controlled. From the article: | Quote: | | The parks keep track of bear sightings, especially close encounters. If a bear is behaving aggressively, a trail is closed until the bear moves on. If a bear begins to lose its fear of humans and wanders into places frequented by people, the goal is to restore that fear quickly. Park rangers yell at bears, make loud noises and even shoot the offending animals with rubber bullets and bean bags. |
Right on imo.
And that last quote illustrates the short coming of the current management "protocols"(?). Shooting an animal with rubber bullets or bean bags leaves a lasting impression I would guess. Unfortunately, in my somewhat limited knowledge (I cannot read their minds), I wonder if these bears with individual personalities might need more than a humbling experience. That is, might they remember that humans antagonized them? I think this is most likely. As such, the occasional problem bear becomes the bully looking for a fight to prove themselves. This is speculation for sure, and not helping the argument for "coexistence" either. But imagine if there were a way to identify these bears (There is. They are the repeat offenders) and smack them down in nature's way with an audience of another bear(s). As I said, nature is brutal. Imagine being a male bear running into another male bear in that bear's territory while he smells a female bear in heat. Or any bear protecting a kill it is feeding on.
It is my contention that we need to protect our own in that vein to teach bears which species is really at the apex. And by doing so we might be able to justify NOT driving the grizzly species into extinction.
We need to meet the problem bears in their arena with our technology and demonstrate our absolute dominance in the presence of other bears we would not deem to be problem bears. The surviving bear(s) would remember this encounter if my mentors are correct. And they would teach their offspring the same absolute fear of humans.
The political environment does not permit this kind of open brutality. So while it might be acknowledged in private conversations, no one would risk their livelihood on proposing such an "inhumane" solution. |
So this is just the gut intuition of a few biologists and not a proven methodological procedure. Truthfully it sounds a little bit ridiculous to think that we could essentially torture a few problem bears after gathering their less problematic peers to witness the torture as a deterrent. Sorta like drawn and quartered in the public square or something.
On the other hand we could utilize methods we have used in the past which work specifically for grizzly bears, as well as methods used in other cultures with other apex predators which work for them. The former is briefly described in the article I quoted above. To summarize, temporarily close trails until bears move on,, haze bears that are aggressive or frequent areas of human activity, relocate bears, and euthanize bears which attack and or don't respond well to those methods. For the latter, look to people like the Masai which maintain their herd animals in the midst of several predators.
The whole "bear aware" campaign is designed to teach humans how to coexist with grizzly and black bears when we enter bear territory. The main strategy is to not allow bears to become conditioned to human food. The other strategy is to travel so as to not surprise/startle bears, especially sows with their offspring. Of course the third strategy is to carry bear spray and know how to use it, especially in grizzly territory.
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This link has a lot of info about bears. Several hours can be spent browsing.
In this video they talk about bear behavior quite a bit
https://www.coasttocascades.org/education-resources
Bears do fear us. That's why they run away when they can. They don't like to be around us. If they get startled by us, then they're scared and try to scare us by growling, bluff charging, trying to look big, to make us go away.
In a place like Bella Coola, BC., the Grizzlies have learned that humans are not a threat to them. There are viewing platforms right in front of bear fishing areas, and people take float trips down the river to see them up close. The guides carry bear spray and a radio. No firearms.
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| RumiDude wrote: | | Truthfully it sounds a little bit ridiculous to think that we could essentially torture a few problem bears after gathering their less problematic peers to witness the torture as a deterrent. Sorta like drawn and quartered in the public square or something. |
Your words. Not mine. Now that is ridiculous.
| RumiDude wrote: | | and euthanize bears which attack and or don't respond well to those methods. |
So you too are in favor of "Truthfully it sounds a little bit ridiculous to think that we could essentially torture a few problem bears after gathering their less problematic peers to witness the torture as a deterrent. Sorta like drawn and quartered in the public square or something."
Make up your mind.
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| DadFly wrote: | | Make up your mind. |
Let me try to clear things up; either I have been unclear or you have misunderstood what I wrote. I think that the current policies and practices used for grizzly bear management are sufficient. I especially think that applies to the proposal for the reintroduction of grizzly bears into the North Cascades ecosystem. That would include the temporary closing of certain areas, hazing, relocation, and as a last resort euthanasia of problem bears. Unless I have misunderstood you, you do not believe this is enough.
You seemed to indicate that some of your wildlife biologist mentors have told you that grizzly bears can be trained to fear and thus avoid humans. You indicated that would involve some super brutal methods of euthanasia, in the presence of other grizzly bears, not currently practiced and would be shocking if ever published. This "training" would supposedly make the bear witnesses fear and avoid humans thereafter. Whenever I have tried to draw you out as to exactly what that would entail, you have been vague and opaque.
Not wanting to disrespect your mentors, but I have to believe their ideas about "training" grizzly bears to fear humans amounts to nothing more than their intuitive guesses and not on a methodical trial with follow-up observations.
Your observation that deep suspicion and mistrust from many of the groups and individuals involved in this issue is spot on in my opinion; that includes both pro and con. I am kinda old fashioned in thinking the only way to bridge the gap and disarm the suspicion and mistrust is to be open and communicative. Each side needs to acknowledge the validity of the opposite viewpoint and try to understand it. But I am not so naïve to think that everyone will come around. In light of that, sometimes the idea must just be pushed forward and allow the stragglers to catch up eventually.
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I was reviewing old e-mails and found this that I sent the NPS
7/20/2018 12:05 hrs.
Suiattle River area
While driving E/B on the Suiattle River rd, my wife and I saw a bear run across the road about 100 feet in front of us and continue downhill towards the river. I looked over the side of the road and couldn't see him again but I could hear him crashing through the brush.
We have both seen black bears before and love seeing them. What struck both of us about this bear was his medium brown color and what looked like a sharp hump on his shoulder. I saw the bear as he was running diagonally away from us. My wife got a good look at his face before he started running. She says his ears were small and round. I know that the possibility of a grizzly bear this far south is very slim, but just in case you've had other reports or something, I figured I'd let you know. Maybe it's just my wishful thinking. Anyway it was a beautiful bear.
Sorry no pictures.. It happened too quick.
The reply from the GIS Specialist/Bear Management Biologist:
| Quote: | | Thank you so much for your report. It is possible to see a grizzly bear anywhere in this ecosystem -- although very unlikely. One of the most recent confirmed observations was of a probable female with a probable 2-year old cub about 25 miles west of Mt. Rainier. But that was in 1993... and observations have been extremely sparse since then, with only one more on the US side of the border, south of Glacier Peak (1996), and a couple near the border in BC (2012, 2015). Both of the BC observations were on/near roads: we have fewer roads in the US Cascades and thus more secure habitat for them to hide in - and to make it more difficult to find them.
Unfortunately neither size nor color are identifying features, and humps and ears can be tricky. I very much wish there were clear differences between all members of one species or the other. Front claws and DNA are the best indicators of species, but you don't normally want to be that close! (!) None of this is to say you did not see a grizzly bear, but the odds are it was a brown colored black bear. |
I don't remember the part about a Grizzly 25 miles west of Mt Rainier in 1993. Then I found this.
RANGER ACTIVITIES DIVISION
MORNING REPORT
Attention: Directorate
Regional and Park Chief Rangers, USPP, BIFC, FLETC
Ranger Activities Division Information Network
Day/Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1993
Broadcast: By 0900 EDT
INCIDENTS
93-736 - Mount Rainier (Washington) - MVA; Multiple Fatalities, Injuries
On the afternoon of September 26th, the park communications center was
advised of a serious multiple vehicle accident on Mather Memorial Parkway
near Deadwood Creek. Responding rangers found that two people had been
killed and that four others required advanced life support. All four were
medevaced by helicopter. Accident investigators determined that a 25-
passenger, privately-owned bus had been heading north on the highway when
the driver lost control as it came upon a construction site where a line of
traffic was waiting at a stop light. The bus collided with three southbound
motorcycles from a Tacoma motorcycle club, then struck three northbound
vehicles - a Chevy Blazer, a compact pickup and a passenger sedan - that
were waiting at the light. Killed were R.H. and M.H. of Tacoma;
seriously injured were J.S. and R.S. of Graham, Washington, and Don
and P.B. of Puyallup, Washington. Twenty-three NPS employees
responded to the accident along with Washington State Patrol officers, three
ambulances, two military MAST helicopters, a commercial air ambulance, and a
state vehicle inspection team. [Bill Larson, MORA, 9/27]
93-737 - Yosemite (California) - Fraud; Impersonation of Officer
On September 25th, a patrol ranger driving through the South Entrance area
observed a man - later identified as Y.K. - standing directly
alongside one of the entrance booths, which was closed during a lunch break.
As the ranger watched, Y.K. gestured to the operator of a motorhome, who
handed Y.K. what appeared to be money. This was subsequently confirmed after
the motorhome was stopped and the driver questioned. He stated that he
had paid Y.K. three dollars to enter the park, but that he had wondered why
the fee was only three dollars and why vehicles in the other traffic lane
were not paying a fee. Y.K. was subsequently arrested at the scene while
attempting to charge another visitor three dollars to enter the park (or
four dollars if they wanted to park their vehicle). Y.K. was dressed in a
white shirt and tie, and it is believed that he had just begun this fraud
when observed. Only four visitors are believed to have paid him. Prosecution
is pending on charges of impersonation of a federal officer and
misappropriation of property. [Pat Hattaway, YOSE, 9/27]
93-738 - North Cascades (Washington) - Rescue
On September 26th, a local climbing club was ascending Icy Peak when one
member of the party twisted his left ankle. The group started a carryout,
but had to stop because of the long distance and rugged terrain. Two
members of the party hiked out to report the incident. Rangers flew in by
helicopter, stabilized the swollen and severely angulated ankle, and
evacuated the 53-year-old climber. [CRO, NOCA, 9/27]
93-739 - Cumberland Gap (Kentucky/Tennessee/Virginia) - Marijuana Eradicated
On September 26th, rangers located and destroyed 35 marijuana plants which
were approximately 36 inches tall. Kentucky state police assisted in the
destruction of the patch. [Charlie Chadwell, CUGA, 9/27]
FIRE ACTIVITY
The NIFC fire report is not available this morning.
RESOURCE MANAGEMENT
North Cascades/Mount Rainier (Washington) - Grizzly Bear Recovery
Last winter, the Fish and Wildlife Service determined that the grizzly bear
population in the North Cascades ecosystem is "recoverable," so work on a
grizzly bear recovery plan was initiated at the park. A very rough estimate
is that somewhere between 10 and 20 grizzlies inhabit the area. Grizzly
bears are now accepted as "present," though sparse, in the park. On
September 5th, a grizzly bear biologist examined plaster casts of tracks
which were made last June about 30 miles west of Mount Rainier and confirmed
with complete certainty that they were the tracks of a female grizzly and at
least one cub or yearling. Grizzly sightings in this area are rare, and
tracks of reproducing bears are even rarer. This sighting emphasizes the
importance of considering grizzlies in planning processes at Mount Rainier.
[Kathy Jope, PNRO]
STAFF STATUS
Division Chief: No leave or travel scheduled.
Branch of Resource and Visitor Protection: Martin at fee meeting (9/27-
9/30); Henry at Fifth World Wilderness Conference (9/22-10/4); Halainen at
meeting with R&R Uniforms (9/27-9/28).
Branch of Fire and Aviation: Broyles at RX90 "burn boss" steering committee
meeting (9/27-10/1); Farrel and Hurd at NWCG meeting (9/27-9/30); Gale on AL
(9/28-9/30).
Prepared by WASO Division of Ranger Activities
Telephone: Branch of R&VP - 202-208-4874
Branch of F&A (WASO) - 202-208-5572
Telefax: Branch of R&VP - 202-208-6756
Branch of F&A (WASO) - 202-208-5977
cc:Mail: Branch of R&VP - WASO Ranger Activities
Branch of F&A (WASO) - WASO Fire and Aviation
SkyPager: Emergencies ONLY (numeric message) - 1-800-759-7243, PIN 2404843
SkyTalk: Emergencies ONLY (voice message) - 1-800-759-8255, PIN 2404843
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Let's keep the discussion going. I say they should bring in some Kodiak brown bears. That would make it interesting.
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| timberghost wrote: | | Let's keep the discussion going. I say they should bring in some Kodiak brown bears. That would make it interesting. |
Thats fine. But agencies CANNNOT discriminate.
Polar Bears & Panda Bears
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“North Cascades/Mount Rainier (Washington) - Grizzly Bear Recovery
Last winter, the Fish and Wildlife Service determined that the grizzly bear
population in the North Cascades ecosystem is "recoverable," so work on a
grizzly bear recovery plan was initiated at the park. A very rough estimate
is that somewhere between 10 and 20 grizzlies inhabit the area. Grizzly
bears are now accepted as "present," though sparse, in the park. On
September 5th, a grizzly bear biologist examined plaster casts of tracks
which were made last June about 30 miles west of Mount Rainier and confirmed
with complete certainty that they were the tracks of a female grizzly and at
least one cub or yearling. Grizzly sightings in this area are rare, and
tracks of reproducing bears are even rarer. This sighting emphasizes the
importance of considering grizzlies in planning processes at Mount Rainier.
[Kathy Jope, PNRO]”
No way. That has to be a miscommunication.
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The people making those decisions have a financial incentive to attest that there is a “recoverable population.” It’s laughable given there is no hard evidence, such as DNA, hair, or a body since the 1960s.
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| Snowshovel wrote: | | September 5th, a grizzly bear biologist examined plaster casts of tracks
which were made last June about 30 miles west of Mount Rainier and confirmed
with complete certainty that they were the tracks of a female grizzly and at
least one cub or yearling. |
30 miles west of Mt Rainier Summit
Don't believe it!
Doesn't sound like the biologist is the person who discovered the tracks & made the casts.
Examined plaster casts made by who?
Took that person's word as truth, about where they made casts of those prints?
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| Bootpathguy wrote: | | 30 miles west of Mt Rainier Summit
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Where is NW Wildlife Trek on this map? 
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Grizzly bear reintroduction efforts get pushback from Chelan County
WENATCHEE — Chelan County commissioners have drafted a letter opposing federal agencies’ plan to reintroduce grizzly bears into the North Cascades.
“This is frustrating, because the federal government pursued this effort only a few years ago,” said Chelan County Commissioner Tiffany Gering at last week’s meeting. “The effort was suspended after local counties like Chelan County spoke out against it. Yet here we are again, re-addressing this issue.”
The National Park Service and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service began hosting a series of virtual public meetings in November to discuss grizzly bear restoration.
The two federal agencies plan to initiate an environmental impact statement to evaluate their options in reintroducing grizzly bears, according to a Chelan County news release.
Since 2020, the park service has continued to study reintroduction in the North Cascades and believes it is feasible, according to reporting from The Spokesman-Review.
The commissioners — Gering, Kevin Overbay and Bob Bugert — collectively submitted a letter to Don Striker, superintendent for the North Cascades National Park Complex.
“We have previously provided extensive comments opposing grizzly bear reintroduction into our local communities,” the letter read. “We continue to oppose grizzly bear reintroduction given the likely negative impacts to public safety, economic development, recreation opportunities and the overall livelihood of our rural communities.”
The commissioners also wrote that federal agencies have largely failed to address any of the county’s concerns as well as failing to coordinate and consult with the local communities.
They cited state law that states, “grizzly bears shall not be transplanted or introduced into the state.” The same law also states that, “the commission shall protect grizzly bears and develop management programs on publicly owned lands that will encourage the natural regeneration of grizzly bears in areas with suitable habitat.”
The commissioners have asked Striker to suspend the current efforts toward grizzly reintroduction to discuss the county’s concerns.
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