[PowderPawn]

The frame pack did not make the list? that would be my addition.

[Schroder]

[RumiDude]

Pretty good list. I almost always carry one Nalgene with me. I don't like narrow mouth water containers for a couple of reasons. I take protein powder to make a morning shake and it is just way easier to get it into a wide mouth Nalgene. And then it is easier to get water into it as well. I shave weight elsewhere. Rumi

[RumiDude]

[pula58]

[uww]

Do the 'waterproof' down products actually stand up to the weather we have in the PNW for jackets? I have been sticking to synthetics for fear of down wetting out. Sleeping bags I can keep dry in my pack and tent so I go down there for weight and compressibility. The article says treated down is now ubiquitous in jackets and sleeping bags- is that really the case? I would think they would still be bragging about it and I only rarely see it in the descriptions.

[HitTheTrail]

[InFlight]

[Cyclopath]

[RumiDude]

[rossb]

Nalgenes have several advantages. First, they are very tough. I've never known them to break. The wide mouth makes it much easier for adding snow (in the spring). In the winter, the opening is less likely to freeze. I also think the attachable lid was a big addition. I can open a Nalgene with mitts on easily, and not worry about losing my cap. In mid-summer and fall I tend to go with Platypus (as my clean container) but for the rest of the year I find Nalgene essential. I think they did represent an important breakthrough and are still a popular product. There are plenty of important breakthroughs that were simply stepping stones.

[JonnyQuest]

[Malachai Constant]

The original Nalgene water bottles were narrow mouthed ones polyethylene purloined from chem labs in the 60’s (you only took new ones). Soon after that REI started carrying them for less than $1. Then they changed to high density polyethylene and wide mouths for $2. They next changed to clear plastic and price went up again. BPA controversy came up and non BPA ones reached $5. Now we mostly use repurposed throw away ones for a few uses. Thru hikers mostly us Smartwater bottles as they are thicker and accept the threads on a Sawyer filter. I have this history at home. I had a camelback bladder pop on an Enchantment hike/run but the patty’s are tougher.