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PostSat Mar 18, 2023 8:24 pm 
The last sheep herd I saw was up in Meander Meadows back in the 60s. Does the Forest Service even allow grazing on National Forest land anymore? I haven't seen any down here in the Oregon Cascades.

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PostMon Mar 20, 2023 9:43 am 
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Found this on the Sheep herders trail on Clark Mt

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PostMon Mar 20, 2023 10:56 am 
Sheesh...quite a find that! Are you talking about the Clark Mt up the White River beyond Lake Wenatchee? I know there was a lot of sheep activity around there in the early 1900's.

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PostMon Mar 20, 2023 1:50 pm 
Yes , it was in an old herders camp

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PostTue Mar 21, 2023 10:34 am 
A word of warning!! Removing any object over 50 years old from federal property is a no no. These objects are considered to be of historical significance and may lead to an archeological study.

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PostWed Mar 22, 2023 8:31 am 
It was up in camp, tucked under a tree. Either he left in a hurry , or forgot it.

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PostWed Mar 22, 2023 10:41 am 
timberghost wrote:
There's always one in every crowd that pipes up with that warning. Falls hand in hand with not removing Wellington relics. Difference between left and lost. I doubt the sheep herder left it, more likely lost it there for it wouldn't apply. Watch for internet police.
The law doesn’t make a distinction between left and lost

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PostWed Mar 22, 2023 12:26 pm 
The law might not but it that's what it says in the regulations.

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PostThu Mar 23, 2023 7:34 am 
Link? The regulations say that one can keep artifacts that were lost versus left. How could one make the distinction?

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PostThu Mar 23, 2023 8:55 am 
Source? Seems as it is indeed an artifact “The following items may not be collected or removed by casual collectors:  Any part of a Vertebrate fossil (dinosaurs bones, fish, - anything with a backbone), and shark teeth.  Archeological resources including any material remains of prehistoric or historic human life or activities, which are at least 50 years old, and includes the physical site, location, or context in which they are found. (36 CFR 261.2)  The collection of projectile points, pottery, or any other archeological resource or artifact is not allowed (36 CFR 261.9 (h) without a permit. Projectile points include ‘arrowheads’ and any prehistoric human-modified stone.“ https://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd677552.pdf

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PostThu Mar 23, 2023 10:29 am 
Internet police!! Exactly why a lot of people don't post their pictures.

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PostThu Mar 23, 2023 3:22 pm 
There are also the State laws here: https://dahp.wa.gov/project-review/preservation-laws I've had to hire archaeologists three times to get building permits on my house and assure I was in compliance with these laws when I did any excavation.

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PostThu Mar 23, 2023 6:28 pm 
Hardly. I was clearing up the misinformation that there was a difference between lost and left.

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PostThu Mar 23, 2023 6:50 pm 
The history of herding sheep in the Entiat is really cool! Too bad this thread has divulged into adults aggressively debating playground rules and "Finders Keepers Losers Weepers" Even if this isn't legally an artifact, it clearly has historical and archaeological significance in the region.

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PostThu Mar 23, 2023 9:29 pm 
The revolver is mediocre but holster is nice.

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