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vibramhead
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| RumiDude wrote: | | Dosewallips campground would be one place. |
It would be a shame if they take that out. It's serving a useful purpose now, sort of a gray area between frontcountry and backcountry. I've biked in there on the closed Dose Rd and camped, and quite enjoyed the ability to do so. It just needs a functional privy.
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RumiDude
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| vibramhead wrote: | | RumiDude wrote: | | Dosewallips campground would be one place. |
It would be a shame if they take that out. It's serving a useful purpose now, sort of a gray area between frontcountry and backcountry. I've biked in there on the closed Dose Rd and camped, and quite enjoyed the ability to do so. It just needs a functional privy. |
They have already made the decision to do so. They will also decommission the road, which means it will become trail and thus no bikes allowed. But don't worry, it will be years, likely a decade or two before they ever get around to doing that. By then the road will likely wash completely out and there will be no access to the Dosewallips.
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Anne Elk
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| Logbear wrote: | | Anne Elk wrote: | | altasnob wrote: | | There's no lodge up at Artist Point and I put that area right up there with Hurricane Ridge, Sunrise, and Paradise, as most visited parking lots in the state. You don't need junk food and plastic trinkets for sale in order to attract people to these areas. The view on a sunny day is enough. ...You don't need a lodge to maintain access |
There's one at Heather Meadows, open right now and it too has a cafe and who knows what else. |
I drove up to Heather Meadows today. I took a cup of coffee from home and planned on getting a hamburger at the cafe in the lodge at Heather Meadows. Nope, no cafe. The day lodge was closed. The only thing open was the USFS restrooms at Heather Meadows. We never even saw the Heather Meadows visitor center. It's above the gate I guess.= |
I based that comment on what I saw on their website, which I looked at the day I made that post. So much for keeping websites even "somewhat" current. That's outrageous. Sorry about that. 
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Logbear
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I looked at their website too, and when I read that everything was closed, I wasn't going to go there. Then when I read from a real person that it was open, I figured I'd rely on a real person report instead of the website. My mistake.
Believe the website. Everything is closed.
https://www.mtbaker.us/the-mountain/day-lodges-food/
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Logbear
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Wed May 24, 2023 10:54 am |
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As far as Hurricane Ridge is concerned...
From a news article.
"The park will erect a toilet facility — not portable toilets — and a small trailer for staff to work in and take breaks"
That shouldn't take too long.
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vibramhead
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| RumiDude wrote: | | They have already made the decision to do so. |
If ONP has made that decision, it doesn't show up in their list of projects. And ONF still shows the Dosewallips washout repair project status as being "on hold". Of course, it's had that status for some 15 years, and just last year ONF removed all the fire rings and picnic tables at Elkhorn Campground, so it seems pretty clear that they have no expectation of ever repairing the road. That's fine with me. I imagine the easiest path for both agencies is to avoid making any definitive decision, and just to keep it way down on the priority list.
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RumiDude
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"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
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Backpacker Joe
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Its very difficult for me to read these pages. Has it been determined what happend?
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RumiDude
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| Backpacker Joe wrote: | | Its very difficult for me to read these pages. Has it been determined what happend? |
No.
I don't know even know if the on site investigation has finished.
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Windstorm
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The park's last news release (May 11) said they anticipate being able to release a timeline for the road opening after June 2, so hopefully we'll hear something before too long.
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Backpacker Joe
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Thank you Rums.
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| Windstorm wrote: | | The park's last news release (May 11) said they anticipate being able to release a timeline for the road opening after June 2, so hopefully we'll hear something before too long. |
From what I’ve heard and read in the media this week is that ONP has closed Hurricane Ridge indefinitely and there won’t be a decision made by June 2nd. The impression I got was that the fire investigation team is still sleuthing for the cause of the fire. Judging by the pictures I saw, there wasn’t much left of the building, except for the foundation and metal roofing.
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Riverside Laker
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| Windstorm wrote: | | The park's last news release (May 11) |
That was released 4 days after the fire...
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| altasnob wrote: | | When will we move away from 1960 park management? |
This is the point you seem to be making throughout and is a good question. Unfortunately the answer is political and we avoid that around here. I'm not sure what you do for a living but I'm going to guess it doesn't involve federal and state bureaucracies that move at a geologic pace. As for the comment about Sequim and only second homes, that's not very accurate. Yes they exist here but most (obviously not all) people live here year-round.
OFCO or whatever CG is calling her group these days made certain the Dosewallips will forever be left without any upstream access. They have some new blood as well that seem just as determined. Sadly this means the majority of the next generation will only ever experience the area and/or "camping" from gigantic, sprawling campgrounds full of cabins and RVs. Somewhere like Elkhorn at least provided a modicum of backcountry exposure. I know, I know; take them on foot is the answer. But as Rumi has so eloquently stated time and again, not everyone (remember, everyone pays for the Park) is capable of that and prefers different options. The NPS seems to be abandoning that for ONP and those of us who have witnessed the last 50 years of management are rightly suspicious they will drag their feet until it's too late.
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