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PostMon Oct 30, 2023 12:43 pm 
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PostTue Oct 31, 2023 7:47 am 
If this is the map they use https://wadnr.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=21683af70ece4bd495c319915f7a9232 I can see some problems with it. The entire town of Okanogan is in the red, and it isn't much different from Omak, which is deemed as non-vegetated inhabited. Maybe this is the wrong map? If it's being used to figure out threats, they have ignored all the irrigated farm lands that don't burn. Meanwhile, the escapees from Seattle are moving in and building dream houses. (shrug) I'm more worried about the water supply--aquifers. Water is finite and new houses are sprouting up in areas where water must come from wells, which must be drilled. That's a bigger threat than fire.

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PostTue Oct 31, 2023 10:35 am 
The sad part about this article (and those who oppose the rules) is that they both ignore a bigger Wolf: Dense packed housing developments with 5' setbacks and one lane streets in the foothills. If a fire ever really got going in the Cascade foothills with an Eastern Chinook wind, there would be no way for firefighter to even begin to stop this type of fire. The old setback rules of 10' or greater plus wide streets are a firefighter's friend-- a chance to establish defensive barriers to prevent the spread of fire in housing developments. Wonder what it will take to convince the zoning folks that this packing of houses in works okay in cities, but not so well out in the hinterlands. Oh, WAIT! It doesn't work so well in the cities either! - Seattle 1889 - Chicago 1871 - San Francisco 1906

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PostTue Oct 31, 2023 11:47 am 
The Puget Sound region needs 810,000 new housing units to accommodate the region’s population growth by the year 2050, and you're complaining that we are currently building housing too dense? And that map, and those defensible space rules, are absurd. You basically have to cut down every tree in the city of Issaquah to comply.

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PostTue Oct 31, 2023 12:06 pm 
hearingjd wrote:
The sad part about this article (and those who oppose the rules) is that they both ignore a bigger Wolf: Dense packed housing developments with 5' setbacks and one lane streets in the foothills. If a fire ever really got going in the Cascade foothills with an Eastern Chinook wind, there would be no way for firefighter to even begin to stop this type of fire. The old setback rules of 10' or greater plus wide streets are a firefighter's friend-- a chance to establish defensive barriers to prevent the spread of fire in housing developments. Wonder what it will take to convince the zoning folks that this packing of houses in works okay in cities, but not so well out in the hinterlands. Oh, WAIT! It doesn't work so well in the cities either! - Seattle 1889 - Chicago 1871 - San Francisco 1906
I knew a guy who was offered a promotion and transfer as a fire guy to Bend. He turned it down. His reason was that he didn't want anything to do with the sprawl--specifically the Sun River maze/development. Even my street, which is wide and has a turnaround, would require the big fire trucks to back in. Luckily, the street is not long, and there is a handy fire hydrant. I also think backing in would not be very difficult.

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PostTue Oct 31, 2023 1:17 pm 
So the map has virtually all of Whidbey Island where I live in the WUI. Absolute nonsense.

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