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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 9:01 am 
RandyHiker wrote:
"Seems rural residents have the perception that their tax dollars are going to fund projects within Seattle..."
^ Widely-held misconception by "east siders". There are bike lanes all over Tacoma too. And The City of University Place, The Town of Fircrest, and The City of Lakewood. And don't think for a minute your property taxes anywhere in King County are any less than they are down here. rant.gif

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 9:33 am 
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^ Widely-held misconception by "east siders". There are bike lanes all over Tacoma too. And The City of University Place, The Town of Fircrest, and The City of Lakewood. And don't think for a minute your property taxes anywhere in King County are any less than they are down here. rant.gif
Read the link I posted...those are State funds listed. How is a fact, a misconception?

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 9:37 am 
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This is a rant thread... Your rant was about fuel taxes. Not general fund expenditures. King county and other urban counties in the state are net exporters of general fund tax revenues to rural counties like Klickitat. Your roads would be in worse shape without all the money your county gets from Latte sipping, bike riding Seattle dwellers. Klickatat county's property tax rate is 0.781% vs King county's rate of 1.025% and King county's median house value is double that of Klickitat, whom is subsidizing whom?
OK, good point about the rant thread. Klickitat county roads would be in fine shape...we take in Seattle's garbage and the landfill generates plenty of $$$ for county roads, which are well maintained to the point of even having gravel roads plowed by county funds in the winter. As for 14 and 97, 97 is OK but 14 is nothing to write home about...so we could use some bridge and bike money to keep it in better shape. As for *county* property taxes and their use as an example of subsidy....WTF?

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 9:50 am 
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As for *county* property taxes and their use as an example of subsidy....WTF?
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/King-Co-pays-for-the-rest-of-the-state-is-that-969099.php

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 9:58 am 
RandyHiker wrote:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/King-Co-pays-for-the-rest-of-the-state-is-that-969099.php
That doesn't address the argument I just made with respect to property taxes. They do not subsidize other counties. I'd never argue King Co doesn't subsidize other places in other ways, but I'm not the fellow that used property taxes and subsidy in the same sentence referring to each other.

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 10:04 am 
Rant - Those newish Ford SUVs that look like cop cars since the cops bought a bunch too. Annoying!

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 12:21 pm 
MtnGoat wrote:
Rant - Those newish Ford SUVs that look like cop cars since the cops bought a bunch too. Annoying!
Slow down then!

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 12:36 pm 
Who said I was speeding ?

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 12:55 pm 
MtnGoat wrote:
Klickitat county roads would be in fine shape...we take in Seattle's garbage and the landfill generates plenty of $$$ for county roads, which are well maintained to the point of even having gravel roads plowed by county funds in the winter. As for 14 and 97, 97 is OK but 14 is nothing to write home about...so we could use some bridge and bike money to keep it in be
That's what I thought. I keep reading about how the garbage makes money there, and also methane is made? But there are no bike trails near me. No Tesla charging stations either. Lots of things are not here. My rant would be about those snooty Pungent Sounders. If they did spread out to here, we'd probably have to keep our dogs fenced in, quit sighting in rifles this time of year, park our toys inside, get permission after paying a fee to cut down trees on OUR property, etc. etc. Naw, this thread isn't bad. If you really want to see Seattle abuse, read the Okanogan Chronicle. doh.gif

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 1:25 pm 
I get enough urban attitude overflow living in the Gorge, particularly hoity toity Hood River, base camp for Trustifarians in the summer and filled with PDX wannabes to a disturbing degree. You'd think the incredible, heartfelt commitment to 'diversity' and 'tolerance' would manifest itself as *actual* tolerance to people not choosing the 'woke' values, but it doesn't work that way. The tolerance of diversity in HR doesn't even extend to plastic bags at the grocery store, or expanding Walmart to include groceries (the 'mom n pop' myth at work). There, that was a fun rant. (Yes Randy) lol

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 2:23 pm 
Old rant anew.....goddam traffic rant.gif rant.gif rant.gif rant.gif rant.gif rant.gif

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 2:40 pm 
time honored! I used to think the bridges were bad, until I got a few tastes of 205 in PDX...pretty terrible too

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PostThu Oct 05, 2017 2:46 pm 
treeswarper wrote:
Naw, this thread isn't bad. If you really want to see Seattle abuse, read the Okanogan Chronicle. doh.gif
Which is ironically hilarious given that much employment in Okanogan county is based on M$FT dollars used to build and maintain ridiculously sized houses that are occupied only occasionally.

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PostFri Oct 06, 2017 7:06 am 
MtnGoat wrote:
time honored! I used to think the bridges were bad, until I got a few tastes of 205 in PDX...pretty terrible too
After crossing the George Washington Bridge from Fort Lee to Manhattan many times and paying the $15 (each way) toll, I find complaints about Seattle and Portland "traffic" quaint and provincial. I now better appreciate how wonderful and easy life is in the beautiful PNW!

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PostFri Oct 06, 2017 8:28 am 
People who have time to bitch about roundabouts because they helped them get home faster than the old traffic light ever would have... People who are upset about the bike rider whose existence caused them to slow down for a second even though the rider would have slowed them down at least that much if they were instead in a car back in the traffic jam the driver just got through....

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