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PostSun Sep 04, 2011 12:12 pm 
Pretty hardcore...30 hours is a lot of continuous running on terrain like that...
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I had read that the gap was very icy and brought a 9 inch screwdriver along with me in case I needed to use it to dig into the ice for extra grip.
I recommend a well sharpened wood chisel. In addition to securing traction on icy slopes, it can be used to defend yourself against aggressive animals and dangerous lunatics, should any happen to appear along the trail. Also, you can carve amusing trinkets from small pieces of wood you pick up along the way...

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PostSun Sep 04, 2011 3:24 pm 
Would have been nice were to have he returned and answered the questions & comments. As it is, his TR served very useful in settling a disagreement (in principle) my brother and I were having as to the feasibility of running the WT at all, much less in the 23 hours my friend claims that his friend ran it in. Who knew?

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PostSun Sep 04, 2011 5:12 pm 
kbatku wrote:
Would have been nice were to have he returned and answered the questions & comments.
Maybe he's out running? smile.gif

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PostSun Sep 04, 2011 7:24 pm 
Mark Griffith wrote:
Maybe he's out running? smile.gif
When he gets back, I hope he writes about it. smile.gif

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PostSun Sep 04, 2011 11:31 pm 
kbatku wrote:
As it is, his TR served very useful in settling a disagreement (in principle) my brother and I were having as to the feasibility of running the WT at all, much less in the 23 hours my friend claims that his friend ran it in.
Most current ultrarunners that are doing 100 mile races (or even 50's) are probably capable of doing the WT in 36 hours or less. The better ones can cover it in 24. The distance and elevation profile is not unlike many 100s around the country. Only difference is you are self supported (unless you run the Plain 100, then it's not a difference). John Stamstad ran the WT some years back in 24 hours and he wasn't even a "runner" (retired pro mountain biker). The longest he had run up to that point was 30 miles. I think you'd be surprised at the number of people who run the WT each year, they just don't broadcast it or write about it.

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PostMon Sep 05, 2011 12:05 pm 
It's a good guess that "alint3500" is Adam Lint. An accomplished runner (and once a member of the US 100K national team), running 93 miles in 30 hours would likely be a lark for him. According to this record, for example, he ran the Cascade Crest 100 mile race in 22 hours last year, and the Vermont 100 under 18 1/2 hours: http://ultrasignup.com/results_participant.aspx?fname=Adam&lname=Lint&age=28 Cheers!

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PostWed Sep 07, 2011 12:09 am 
yes, it was Adam Lint. Not sure why he didn't respond. I did a 55 mile loop with him 10 days ago, Snoqualmie Pass - PCT to Waptus Lake, Dutch Miller Gap, Goldmeyer, Red Mtn Pass, Snoqualmie Pass. Took us 16 hours, mostly because of my stomach issues. (trip report on www.wta.org - search trip reports for 'Dutch Miller Gap'). Adam did mention something like "apparently the parks people frown upon running the trail". Not sure why, except that they are afraid some runners will need to be rescued when they overdo it....

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PostWed Sep 07, 2011 9:24 pm 
Thanks for the update. Very impressive Adam.

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PostThu Sep 08, 2011 8:31 am 
this may be hogwash .. but i think someone once said that trail runners .. esp at dusk, dawn and nighttime .. appear as prey for big predators .. esp cougars .. and so this could ultimately put everyone on 2 legs at risk; if you've noticed cats and bears and deer and elk all use the trails too but my guess is that it's more about injury and rescue issues .. and maybe liability? .. and i'm not sure it's system-wide .. just at rainier np wow badwater .. 135 miles .. unbelievable times on that

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PostThu Sep 08, 2011 10:47 am 
I think the NPS perspective/policy is jaded by the fact that 98% of the folks they deal with are "tourists" that have little knowlege or fitness. That and the fact that the NPS doesn't actually have staff to perform search and rescue operations -- if someone does get lost or hurt -- they depend on the volunteer mountain rescue organziations from Tacoma, Seattle and Portland. I think the NPS rangers goal is to minimize the number of times that search and rescue operations need to be organzied.

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PostFri Sep 09, 2011 12:23 pm 
I carried just one water bottle and filled up at the streams. There was plenty of water along the way. I did not purify, its a risk I choose to take. Mountain water is typically pretty darn clean, but it is certainly a judgement call as many are not comfortable without a filter or some type of purification. Also my goal was not to break records, I simply wanted to enjoy myself for as much of the run as possibly. The main reason I run is because I love it, competition is a distant second:) Thanks to all the replies and Happy Trails!

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PostFri Sep 09, 2011 9:48 pm 
What an accomplishment!! I cannot fathom eating 30 pop tarts though....

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PostSat Sep 10, 2011 10:21 am 
What a great read! Thanks for sharing this run with us. up.gif smile.gif

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