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PostSat Nov 28, 2015 9:32 am 
Driving on a sheet of ice yesterday never felt so secure.

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PostSat Nov 28, 2015 7:36 pm 
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Driving on a sheet of ice yesterday never felt so secure.
Those aren't studded, right? This is when I envy awd. I hate ice. Up on Union yesterday and tonight it's a sheet of ice. My tires are 6/32 tread remaining which is good but I'd like to swap them out for better all season tires like the Nokian's. Sell the old ones on Craig's Lst. I'll check out the Tire Factory. Thanks for posting that. up.gif

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PostThu Dec 24, 2015 1:27 pm 
Wintercat XL's??? Just saw these on a Outback this morning. They look beefy. Anyone? Still with Nokian's? Without studs, does WSP still make you chain up on non- awd cars?

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PostFri Dec 25, 2015 7:50 am 
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Without studs, does WSP still make you chain up on non- awd cars?
I didn't think "studs" counted for chains. Never heard this before... Really? I can't find anything that says that's the case. This doesn't indicate studs can be used in place of chains.
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Exemptions Four-wheel/all-wheel drive vehicles are exempt from chain requirements when all wheels are in gear and are equipped with approved traction devices, provided that tire chains for at least one set of drive tires are carried in the vehicle. See WAC 204-24-050.

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PostMon Jul 31, 2023 7:27 am 
These tires, how did they hold up? I love old threads, so much information! up.gif I have Michelin Defenders that are on maybe their last season. They have gotten noisy. Good tires that hook up on steep mountain roads. I've never had a flat with these. Occasional railroad access roads and parking lots with who knows hidden in the gravel. Maybe the Defenders are defending me? Wondering if I switch brands if I could get durability, maybe mpg improvement and quieter tires?

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PostMon Jul 31, 2023 10:15 am 
I've switched to AT tires that are rated for snow. Nokian Outpost AT. Quiet, less worry on gravel and rocky roads plus good traction on ice and snow. Not so great in rain but no tire seems to do it all. Now made in Tennessee after the plant in Russia was shuttered. I'm thinking of upgrading to the newest version, nAT in the fall. https://www.nokiantires.com/company/news-article/nokian-tyres-unveils-made-in-usa-nokian-tyres-outpost-nat-all-terrain-tire/

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PostTue Aug 01, 2023 8:55 pm 
They're cheaper than the Defenders and have a good rating. Thanks for the info!

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PostThu Aug 03, 2023 4:41 am 
I punctured a sidewall on a rocky road yesterday. Not reparable so I guess my upgrade will be coming sooner than I expected.

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PostThu Aug 03, 2023 10:44 am 
Rich, the new Nitto Nomad Grapplers are a solid choice if you're going AT tires again. Offered in Subaru sizes. They are a Wildpeak AT Trail competitor, so they are highway-biased, quiet, comfortable. Not for wheelin by any stretch, but good in snow on gravel, and with serious overkill on the sidewall lugs.

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PostThu Aug 03, 2023 10:47 am 
Thanks RL. Those do look good. I found out today that I get 4 new Nokian Outposts free because I purchased a warranty from the tire store when I got them. For my next set I will seriously consider your recommendation.

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PostThu Aug 03, 2023 11:25 am 
Nice. Might as well go hit all your favorite decommissioned roads near end of tire life with that kind of deal.

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