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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 1:27 pm 
Where did the term "beta" come from? What's the matter with "info".

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 1:52 pm 
beta 1. The second letter in the Greek alphabet, written B, transliterated in English as B. (see alphabet) 2. The second item in a series or system of classification. 3. Physics a. A Beta particle b. A beta ray. [Greek bēta, from Hebrew bēth, BETH.] (American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language © 1969) so... in common usage in the current era, it all depends upon what sort of vague, cryptic, and/or nonsensical definition you can find on "urbandictionary" or any number of other websites, any of which may or may not be applicable for your intended use. short answer: more internet nonsense-speak for those lacking command of the English language. (see also "troll", "sock-puppet".)

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 1:59 pm 
I know, right? It grates on me as a neo/fad word. I dread the day I accidentally start using it.

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 2:14 pm 
Ski wrote:
short answer: more internet nonsense-speak for those lacking command of the English language. (see also "troll", "sock-puppet".)
I wonder if say 17th century colonists would decry word usage among those with "command of the (current) English language". In my naive estimation, it seems vernacular changes; between groups, over time, across contexts.

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 2:48 pm 
Words don't bother me as long as we all agree on what they mean. I too have wondered how it came to mean "info." I wonder if it has anything to do with the second-hand nature of said info.

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 3:14 pm 
The internet is always right.

Knows literally nothing
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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 3:27 pm 
"beta" reminds me too much of young, hot, but not nearly as hot as they think they are, rock jocks. Dude...

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 3:58 pm 
GeoTom wrote:
The internet is always right.
Well there you have it! If anyone needs any beta, I'm always happy to supply it! biggrin.gif

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 5:06 pm 
Cool. I always figured it was because you were asking someone who'd already been there done that. So if they were "alpha" you'd be "beta", because you're after them, or something like that.

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 5:43 pm 
Great link. I hope it's it not an urban myth.

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 6:02 pm 
I am not a climber or software tester, but I always thought it came from the test world, a test done prior to product launch, so it was considered real world. Hence data from someone who'd been there. "Does anyone have beta on Lake Melakwa?" "Yes, I was just there. Bring your mosquito repellant. Also, on your way back, watch carefully for forks in trail so that you end up at our car, and not at Lake Tuscohatchie."

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 6:32 pm 
There used to be a grocery store chain named Alpha-Beta...what does that mean, Optimum Info?

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 6:36 pm 
GeoTom wrote:
The internet is always right.
Attributed to a well known climber, Jack Mileski, who was killed when ..... .....he was shot by his ex-girlfriend

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 6:51 pm 
The term has origins in climbing, particularly, sport climbing. It is a term connected to the sharing of detailed information about the intricacies of bouldery moves over the length of a pitch, or section, on a sport route. It has been in use since the mid 1980's, hence it is not a 'neo/fad' word, except maybe to you. See cefire's post above...
Conrad wrote:
I know, right? It grates on me as a neo/fad word. I dread the day I accidentally start using it.

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PostSat Sep 05, 2015 8:42 pm 
Spelled differently, but pronounced the same. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siamese_fighting_fish I'd like the Siamese Fighting Fish on ________.

What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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