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PostThu Feb 10, 2022 5:42 am 
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He who knows only his own side of the case, knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side; if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion… Nor is it enough that he should hear the arguments of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations… He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them; who defend them in earnest, and do their very utmost for them. He must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.

John Stuart Mill, On Liberty

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PostMon Feb 14, 2022 12:04 pm 
"History is not there for you to like or dislike, It is there for you to learn from, and if it offends you, even better. Because then you are less likely to repeat it. It is not yours to erase, it belongs to all of us.".

~Unknown~

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PostMon Feb 14, 2022 12:48 pm 
Related: "That men do not learn very much from the lessons of history is the most important of all the lessons of history" -Aldous Huxley

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PostMon Feb 14, 2022 1:55 pm 
"It took me seventeen years too get three thousand hits in baseball. I did it in one afternoon on the golf course" - Hank Aaron

"You win some, lose some, and crash some" - Dale Earnhardt

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“I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately...”  ― Henry David Thoreau
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PostMon Feb 14, 2022 3:23 pm 
[This was borrowed from a link provided by Slim on another thread]

The backstory, per the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC):

"The Greater Victoria area no longer uses surrounding ocean waters to flush away raw effluent now that a $775 million sewage plant has started treating the equivalent of 43 Olympic-sized pools of waste daily...Unique local efforts to clean up sewage treatment in Victoria helped bring the treatment plant to completion, said James Skwarok, who became known as Mr. Floatie because he appeared at public events dressed in a brown suit that resembled excrement."

And now the quote:

"I thought, that's what we need, we need a seven-foot tall piece of excrement walking around singing, dancing, shaking hands, mingling with the tourists to raise awareness and to put pressure on local officials."

James Skwarok, aka Mr. Floatie

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PostFri Feb 18, 2022 8:46 pm 
"Are you hungry Rich?" Me, "Not Really". "Well, I'm not either but I am going to eat to keep from getting hungry".

My Grandpa Lee about 1971.

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PostTue Feb 22, 2022 3:34 am 
"Rain falls because the clouds can no longer handle the weight, tears fall because the heart can no longer handle the pain".

~unknown~

PS...I suppose that some tears are for joy, but I know nothing of that.

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PostTue Feb 22, 2022 7:50 am 
Chief Joseph wrote:
"... rain falls because the heart can no longer handle the pain".

~unknown~

PS...I suppose that some tears are for joy, but I know nothing of that.

up.gif ...yeah, and for reasons not important to talk about here, these are true words!

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PostTue Feb 22, 2022 11:59 am 
"Life is full of misery, loneliness and suffering, and it's all over much too soon."
                                                - Woody Allen

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PostTue Feb 22, 2022 12:52 pm 
“Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.”

Edward Abbey

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PostWed Feb 23, 2022 5:31 pm 
The witless man is awake all night,
Thinking of many things;
Care-worn he is when the morning comes,
And his woe is just as it was.

-Hávamál v23, Bellows translation

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PostThu Feb 24, 2022 3:43 pm 
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter."  Churchill.
If he were around today he would probably add: "or reading five of their posts on social media."

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No matter how cynical you become, it's not enough to keep up.  Jane Wagner/Lily Tomlin

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PostSun Feb 27, 2022 7:07 pm 
"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog."

- Mark Twain

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Between every two pines is a doorway to the new world. - John Muir

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PostSun Feb 27, 2022 8:53 pm 
Progress isn't made by early risers. It's made by lazy men trying to find easier ways to do something.

RAH

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PostSun Feb 27, 2022 9:11 pm 
Happiness is the china shop; love is the bull.

H.L. Mencken

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