[puzzlr]

Randito is right -- the path goes right by the cabin without easy ways around it, especially in the dark. The caretaker heard them from the loft bedroom and yelled at them through a window. Nothing I heard indicated alcohol was involved, but maybe. BTW, Goldmyer rules prohibit alcohol in the Hot Springs area. You can use in moderation in your campsite if you're camping. Of course, not everyone follows rules but it also helps to keep glass away from the springs if they sneak it in via water bottles.

[Luc]

I just carry comprehensive insurance and expect to get new stuff if that ever happens.

[altasnob]

Moved from other thread where people were asking for what punishment the serial car thieves in Rainier park received: You can look up anyone's Washington State court history at Washington Courts. I plugged in David Spain, who has a long list of court cases. He had a felony charge in King County in 2005, then nothing until Black Diamond Muni in 2011. Then he he had cases in Spokane in 2013, 2017, and consistently since then. The search does not distinguish criminal cases from traffic tickets, or other court cases like divorce or personal injury lawsuits. It also only includes Washington cases, and not crimes prosecuted in Federal Court (which is what it appears happened to Mr. Spain after the Rainier car thefts case). So I am totally speculating, and I can't guarantee it's the same David Spain, but appears he did a prison stint from roughly 2005 to 2011 and another from 2013 to 2017. I say this just because there are no cases for these periods. All his recent cases have been from Tri-Cities area.

[altasnob]

Note, the maximum penalty for the highest property crimes in Washington (like Theft 1st or Theft of Motor Vehicle) is ten years. And while the prosecutors have some power to impose consecutive sentences, the default is concurrent. And you get a third off your prison sentence in good time. So a person could get caught stealing 30 cars in a weeks span and would only do 6 years 8 months of actual jail time. And the first few times a person gets caught they would be offered drug court or drug offender sentencing alternative and avoid prison time in exchange for more rigorous drug treatment. Personally, I really like the drug court model. It's the most intensive, hands on program and requires you to chat with the judge, in person, on a weekly basis. You also waive privacy rights and probation can enter your home at any time and can demand a drug test at any time. But it only works for some people.

[Malachai Constant]

That happened at Beaver Lake trailhead to a Deputy's son and nothing much happened, that I recall.

[Seattle_Wayne]

[Kim Brown]

[zephyr]

[Cyclopath]

[zephyr]

[altasnob]

I've been doing a lot of camping at trailheads in recent years to make it easier to hike with my kids the next day. And I've noticed I am not the only one in the popular places like Cascade Pass, or Monte Christo/Barlow Pass. I mainly trailhead camp on the weekends. So not sure we need trailhead volunteers at the popular places at the popular times (weekends, peak summer) because there are already people hanging out at the trailhead day and night. I assume these break ins are occurring at the less popular times, at less popular trailheads. The only time I was a victim of trail head break in was on a Wednesday after work at Lake 22 in July. I was only gone from my car from about 6 pm to 8 pm, but that was enough time for the thieves to smash my windows as well as about five other cars.

[Cyclopath]

[zephyr]

[Kim Brown]

[Kim Brown]