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PostTue Aug 23, 2022 8:59 pm 
Anne Elk wrote:
So many tomato plants - do members of your family can part of the huge bounty?
We freeze some until we can use them for salads and sauces, can some for winter use, give some away to family and neighbors, eat a lot on salads, BLTs, burgers, etc. and Sungolds are daily snacks right off the vines. The Polish Linguisa are new to us and much bigger than expected so we will have to figure out how best to use those. One way or another they all get used. I wish they could tell me who the ones who complained are and I would deliver some to make the "eyesore" a bit less impactful. smile.gif We have realized a couple of conflicts over tomatoes: 1. My wife wants to "save" every last seedling while I want to cull only the strongest. 2. She also lets them ripen as long as possible while I try to support the weight (the "electric toothbrush" method worked so well some branches have double-digit fruits set on them).

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PostTue Aug 23, 2022 9:28 pm 
That is absolutely nuts. I'm trying to imagine what kind of miserable person would complain about tomato plants, and I can't. I really mean that. Your array is gorgeous. I haven't seen anything like it. I have 4 plants in my little Phinneywood yard and I have to pick the fruit before it is quite ripe, because the rats are masters at knowing when it's perfectly ripe, and like to sample each one. So they come inside to finish ripening. I've lived in Seattle all my adult life aside from some summers on work assignments and so have no experience with HOAs. It all sounds very odd to me though. My new next door neighbors moved from one in the 'burbs where they had to choose from a very few colors (all beige or gray) to paint their house, and their next door neighbor stopped speaking to them because they chose that neighbor's color. Even though every fourth house had that shade of gray. They moved in next to me and promptly painted their house a gorgeous blue.

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PostTue Aug 23, 2022 9:33 pm 
The more experience I have with people, the more I believe that we weren't really meant to cohabitate or even to live in very close proximity. At my property in Verlot I and my 2 adult children all have separate dwellings, and we all like it that way. Here in Idaho, I can't see any of my neighbors and no of us care what others do with their yards. If you live in a neighborhood, there will always be at least one problem resident/s.

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PostTue Aug 23, 2022 9:48 pm 
My sister moved to an HOA neighborhood last year. I don't think they'll even let her have a catio for her kitties. I don't understand what seems like the extremism of some HOA rules.

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PostTue Aug 23, 2022 10:07 pm 
kiliki wrote:
That is absolutely nuts. I'm trying to imagine what kind of miserable person would complain about tomato plants, and I can't. I really mean that.
Here you goÖ

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 1:58 am 
Maybe there were also concerns over the tomato plants attracting rodents. I know I've had some the fruits of my labor "sampled" in the past.

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 7:10 am 
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Maybe there were also concerns over the tomato plants attracting rodents. I know I've had some the fruits of my labor "sampled" in the past.
Good point but I doubt that. There are rabbits all over the neighborhood which bring Lynx/bobcat (I can't tell the difference) and coyote. It would be hard to argue that the tomatoes are the cause of rodent introductions and we have been growing tomatoes for 3 years - why now?

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 7:32 am 
They probably thought it was weed with unexplained red things hanging off of them..

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 8:05 am 
I have heard some HOA stories that are pretty bad, but I have never heard anything like "this is your last year growing tomatoes." Let people plant something other than grass and pretty soon a bird might move into the neighborhood, and you know what birds do, they crap everywhere. I would bet that the person who complained and the person who enforced spend exactly zero time outdoors. shakehead.gif

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 8:20 am 
Trailhead wrote:
Maybe there were also concerns over the tomato plants attracting rodents
This could be , I manage the swimming pool in my HOA (the grand kids love it!) But HOA board members have expressed concern that rats could be nesting in the inflatable pool toys. I don't think there is any reality to that concern, but it is a good example of the depth of thinking that goes in some HOA actions. Another example of "HOA ability to think things through" was the treasurer freaking out that the natural gas bill had a big increase over the last two summers and worried about a leak and explosion. When I pointed out that during COVID the pool was closed and last summer the pool heater was broken , an increase in natural gas usage would be expected they stopped freaking out. But there seems to a strong tendency toward imagining the worse case scenarios.

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 8:43 am 
flatsqwerl wrote:
They probably thought it was weed with unexplained red things hanging off of them.
To grow the seedlings we set up a bunch of grow lights and my wife was always worried that it looked like we were secretly growing weed. To be fair in our last house we found out after the fact that there was a huge growing operation taking place just two houses away from us. There was a whole SWAT team bust that took place while we were on vacation. I guess I was just naive - I always wondered why there were trucks backed in at night and "strange" people sometimes wandering around the street but never put 2 and 2 together.

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 8:48 am 
The fact that you canít have a rational discussion, thereís no explanation, and the complainer is anonymous seems unethical to me. Not really how honest adults handle things IMO.

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PostWed Aug 24, 2022 9:40 am 
Bowregard wrote:
...we have been growing tomatoes for 3 years
Sounds like that could be grounds for "past practice" precedent - or are HOA rules only enforced on a complaint basis? There might be some legal wiggle room here. Or as Randito said earlier, "I think a lot of the nonsense rules that HOA try to enforce are in fact unenforceable, but you'll need to hire an attorney to get them to back down." Or maybe you can get away with tomatoes just in your back yard.

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PostThu Aug 25, 2022 9:46 am 
Bribe the HOA board members with all the fresh tomatoes they want. We often have a plate with some tomato slices as part of dinner. When our garden tomatoes were ready for eating this year we remembered yet again how *much* better fresh home grown ones taste compared to store bought. Tomorrow I start freezing beans. The sweet corn and melons are enjoying the hot weather and will be ready soon. No HOA here to pester us.

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PostThu Aug 25, 2022 10:16 am 
Joey wrote:
When our garden tomatoes were ready for eating this year we remembered yet again how *much* better fresh home grown ones taste compared to store bought.
I remember the first time I had a fresh tomato in Tuscany, and thinking oh right that's what a tomato is supposed to taste like.

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