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PostSun Oct 02, 2022 4:24 pm 
altasnob wrote:
I was curious about this. Can you use a propane torch to fix things on your property when there is a county burn ban and red flag warning? I believe the answer is "yes."
I’m curious as well, and I suspect you’re correct, although it may be an unintentional loophoole. Under IFPL welding and cutting of metal is permitted through Level 3 under certain conditions. IFPL applies to “logging, land clearing and industrial operations”. As a matter of personal responsibility beyond IFPL I would weld or grind away from cleared mineral soil right now only if charged hose present, area throughly wetted before and after, and 1 hour fire watch maintained after completion of work. Same for propane torch use near combustibles. I now need to dig into the specifics of burn bans. i think I’ve seen that in some jurisdictions even charcoal BBQs are not allowed. If “Red Flag” imposes additional restrictions I am unaware of them. It seems to be more of a NWS thing.

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PostSun Oct 02, 2022 6:18 pm 
Those under construction apartment complexes you see headed downwind on the 11 o’clock news? Propane torch is a common ignition source. It’s boring to wait a half hour after, then look really well for embers or smoldering.

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PostSun Oct 02, 2022 7:08 pm 
Pyrites wrote:
Those under construction apartment complexes you see headed downwind on the 11 o’clock news? Propane torch is a common ignition source. It’s boring to wait a half hour after, then look really well for embers or smoldering.
I believe it. Mid 1970's we demolished two very large sawmills in Longview. There waas a lot of torch work and lots of pitch, sawdust, and timber structure to catch fire. We had a paid overnight firewatch, every night, and most nights they had a fire or at least a smoker we'd missed when we left for the day. I really learned to hustle, fighing fire solo in a multi-story timber structure.

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PostSun Oct 02, 2022 8:12 pm 
A short section of RT 2 was closed again this afternoon, but they were able to detour through downtown Skykomish. This of course resulted in massive delays at all the traffic lights downtown.

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PostSun Oct 02, 2022 10:22 pm 
Things must be getting better over in the Okanogan, I saw the Chewack Fire Crew drive through Sultan tonight.

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PostMon Oct 03, 2022 6:28 am 
Nancyann wrote:
Things must be getting better over in the Okanogan, I saw the Chewack Fire Crew drive through Sultan tonight.
They must because the frequent postings on facebook have dwindled. I spent a couple days last week at Pearrygin Lake. Got there just in time to see the SEAT (little water scooping panes) start scooping up the lake and going until dusk. A fire had started in the Texas Cr. area. They apparently got it knocked down but the two days spent there were smokier than when I arrived. I could also hear a helicopter working somewhere to the NW. I almost came home early because of the smoke but instead, rode my bike to town and had ice cream. It was very good ice cream.

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PostMon Oct 03, 2022 8:44 am 
I'd planned to hike Cutthroat Pass today and Goat Peak tomorrow but the forecast changed drastically last night and it is seems very smoky in that area now. NWS forecast says "widespread smoke" all week. If you are hiking this week check the AQI/forecast.
Also, do not get fooled by this. The graphic says good, but the small print says "no data" and the rest of the site indicates "unhealthy."

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PostMon Oct 03, 2022 9:37 am 
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Also, do not get fooled by this. The graphic says good, but the small print says "no data" and the rest of the site indicates "unhealthy.
Here is the ‘Purple Air’ AQI map. https://map.purpleair.com/1/mAQI/a10/p604800/cC0#8.65/48.4757/-120.241 It seems to me to be the one that updates most frequently and reliably. You can scale it up or down.

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PostMon Oct 03, 2022 9:39 am 
Some of these are out of commission, but it does look smoky in the Methow today. http://trbo.org/methow-us/webcams/

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PostMon Oct 03, 2022 10:34 pm 
I hiked Cutthroat Pass today - the drive in from Winthrop was so smoky we almost called it off but as soon as we got west of Washington Pass it cleared up considerably and we had nice clear air for most of our hike. You could see the dense smoke back east from the Pass, and some was blowing into the area on the hike back but overall I think we got really lucky. Hoping we’re able to find a spot of clean air for another hike tomorrow…

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PostTue Oct 04, 2022 6:12 am 
Looking at projected winds on Windy.com has worked quite well to predict where it will and will not be smoky. Unfortunately the rest of the week just looks stagnant.

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PostTue Oct 04, 2022 6:51 am 
in addition to Windy, this site does a good job at predicting: https://tools.airfire.org/websky/v2/run/standard/PNW-4km/2022100400/#viewer

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PostTue Oct 04, 2022 10:03 am 
slabbyd wrote:
Looking at projected winds on Windy.com has worked quite well to predict where it will and will not be smoky. Unfortunately the rest of the week just looks stagnant.
I agree. There is a slider on Windy where you can set elevation. So, I might look at surface to 2000' winds for cross-Cascades low level winds, and 6400' for winds bringing in smoke from more distant locations. i.e. South winds aloft are not good right now because of primarily Oregon wildfires.

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PostWed Oct 05, 2022 8:40 am 
A couple other Methow webcam compilations…..for smoke. https://www.mazamatrailhead.com/p/web-cams.html This WSDOT series is from the airport/smokejumper base - gives a good general indication of conditions. https://wsdot.wa.gov/travel/aviation/airports-list/methow-valley-state

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PostThu Oct 06, 2022 6:47 am 
From the Okanogan County Fire page: Wildfire Updates : Fires continue to burn in areas of Washington State. Here's a list of the current status of some of them. - Bolt Creek Fire (Skykomish WA): 12,723 acres and 36 percent contained. Moderate fire activity is still being reported. - Pasayten Fire Complex (North Cascades): 17,998 acres with no report on containment. This complex includes 6 fires - the "Parks Fire", the "Kid Fire", the "Skagit Fire", the "3 Fools Fire" and the "Shull Fire". Minimal fire activity reported on all fires in the complex. - Chilliwack Fire Complex (North Cascades): 7,388 acres with no report on containment. This complex includes 5 fires - the "Silesia Fire", the "Little Chill Fire", the "Brush Creek 2 Fire", the "Copper Lake Fire", and the "Little Beaver Creek Fire". Minimal fire activity reported on all fires in the complex. - White River and Irving Peak Fires (Chelan County): 12,336 acres at 10% containment. Moderate fire activity is still being reported in some areas of the fire. - Goat Rocks Fire (Packwood): 4,249 acres with no report on containment. Active runs were reported in some areas of the fire today. - Kalama Fire (south of Mount Saint Helens): 443 acres at 5% containment. No report on activity on the fire. <photo - incident photo Bolt Creek Fire on 10-1-22>

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