[Ski]

@altasnob - Thanks for the link. As in every other argument I've seen supporting grizzly bear reintroduction, they make no valid case: They make the claim that there is "something missing", but fail to state exactly what the detrimental effects of that "missing thing" have been. Other than a brief mention about "aerating soil", there is nothing in that article that supports reintroduction other than them saying they wish it to be so. Are we to believe that black bears don't rip stuff to shreds and "aerate the soil" as well? I would call that a bit of a stretch. For that matter, I'd call it pure horseshit. Thanks again - there's a link to submit comment to NPS, which I did. All of these projects begin with "Purpose and Need". We still have not seen any definitive documentation that there is a "Need", nor anything in the way of describing exactly what beneficial effects such actions might have. It's still all smoke and mirrors.

[RumiDude]

[altasnob]

[Snowshovel]

[Worthington]

[Bruce Albert]

[Snowshovel]

[Ski]

[Worthington]

[Logbear]

[Ski]

nope. not at all. there are comments here on CNW from me going way back.

[Bruce Albert]

[Ski]

Some people require tangible, empirical evidence that a thing is true before they accept it as being true. Other people will believe anything you tell them. I fall into the first category.

[altasnob]

Ski, the problem is, it could take a thousand years to be able to identify tangible evidence that the extinction of the grizzly from the North Cascades has damaged the ecosystem. If we could keep you alive for a thousand years, and then shove this evidence in front of your face, you would say, damn, sorry, I was wrong, we should have done what we can to save the grizzly. I take the position that the elimination of any species from its natural ecosystem has a negative effect on that ecosystem. Doesn't matter if it is large, like a grizzly, or small like an insect or microbe. I think as humans, and in particular, wealthy humans, we have a duty to do everything we can to maintain the biodiversity on this planet. We cannot sit here today and claim that the extinction of grizzlies from the North Cascades is no big deal. Grizzlies have only been extinct from the North Cascades for a few decades and it will take hundreds of years for the effect of this extinction to manifest itself.

[timberghost]

Just like before if the NCNP decides to drop or not continue with the reintroduction. The Center for Biological Diversity (CBD) Will send the DOI a 60-day notice of intent to sue that asserts that the “reintroduction termination violates the Endangered Species Act.” One of those typical cry until you get your way tactics these groups pull. Mean while the taxpayers pay for another over inflated study to be done.