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PostWed Nov 23, 2022 9:20 pm 
The frame pack did not make the list? that would be my addition.

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PostThu Nov 24, 2022 9:15 am 
PowderPawn wrote:
The frame pack did not make the list? that would be my addition.
I would have included the JanSport D2. You could carry incredible loads in that frame.

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PostThu Nov 24, 2022 10:14 am 
Pretty good list. I almost always carry one Nalgene with me. I don't like narrow mouth water containers for a couple of reasons. I take protein powder to make a morning shake and it is just way easier to get it into a wide mouth Nalgene. And then it is easier to get water into it as well. I shave weight elsewhere. Rumi

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PostThu Nov 24, 2022 1:52 pm 
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I shave weight elsewhere.
Me too. That's why I think I would have included the Lawn Mower on the list.
I shave my way and you "shave" your way *bigmanscapinggrins* Rumi

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PostMon Nov 28, 2022 7:43 pm 
RumiDude wrote:
Pretty good list. I almost always carry one Nalgene with me. I don't like narrow mouth water containers for a couple of reasons. I take protein powder to make a morning shake and it is just way easier to get it into a wide mouth Nalgene. And then it is easier to get water into it as well. I shave weight elsewhere. Rumi
In WA state it seems like we are melting snow for water Late October through sometime in July. Try pouring melted snow from your cook pot into a smartwater bottle. Nope! I'll stick with Nalgene bottles!

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PostTue Nov 29, 2022 8:47 am 
Do the 'waterproof' down products actually stand up to the weather we have in the PNW for jackets? I have been sticking to synthetics for fear of down wetting out. Sleeping bags I can keep dry in my pack and tent so I go down there for weight and compressibility. The article says treated down is now ubiquitous in jackets and sleeping bags- is that really the case? I would think they would still be bragging about it and I only rarely see it in the descriptions.

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PostTue Nov 29, 2022 1:54 pm 
pula58 wrote:
Try pouring melted snow from your cook pot into a smartwater bottle.
That's exactly what I am doing here. So it is not that big of a deal. YMMV biggrin.gif
Melting water WTF ?
Melting water WTF ?

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PostTue Nov 29, 2022 11:58 pm 
uww wrote:
Do the 'waterproof' down products actually stand up to the weather we have in the PNW for jackets? I have been sticking to synthetics for fear of down wetting out. Sleeping bags I can keep dry in my pack and tent so I go down there for weight and compressibility.
Pertex fabric does a reasonable job protecting down from light moisture. Down or Synthetic is useless to miserable if soaked. If its cold and raining a fleece layer under a raincoat is my preference when hiking.

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PostWed Nov 30, 2022 9:28 am 
uww wrote:
Do the 'waterproof' down products actually stand up to the weather we have in the PNW for jackets?
No. Or a better way to put it is we get some cold, dry weather during the winter and treated down is good for those days, just like regular down.

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PostFri Dec 02, 2022 4:36 pm 
InFlight wrote:
uww wrote:
Do the 'waterproof' down products actually stand up to the weather we have in the PNW for jackets? I have been sticking to synthetics for fear of down wetting out. Sleeping bags I can keep dry in my pack and tent so I go down there for weight and compressibility.
Pertex fabric does a reasonable job protecting down from light moisture. Down or Synthetic is useless to miserable if soaked. If its cold and raining a fleece layer under a raincoat is my preference when hiking.
I have to say that a fleece is an oft overlooked bit of gear. And on the list is the Patagonia R1 fleece, which I currently use the R1 Air Full Zip Hoody as my go-to rather than a down jacket. if faced with a choice, the R1 comes with me almost every time. It excels at wicking moisture away from me while keeping me warm. Rumi

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