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PostSun Oct 30, 2022 6:59 pm 
Iím planning to do some snow camping this winter, nothing ambitious, just go down NF49 type roads a few miles or the trails in Methow Valley for 2-3 nights. Probably wonít be breaking trails. I tried snowshoes last season, and it was ok, but I think Iíd prefer skis; Iíve only ever done downhill at resorts however, no backcountry, no Nordic, never used skins. I thought I get the BD Glidelite 147 and that orange Expedition sled for my camping gear, but the BD Glidelite is discontinued this season. Anyone have thoughts on where to start? Maybe I should try Altai Hoks? Or would just getting downhill skis I can put skins on and Alpine Touring ski boots make more sense?

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PostSun Oct 30, 2022 8:04 pm 
What's your budget? Alpine touring gear is very capable and efficient and your downhill skiing skills may be applied directly. However AT gear isn't cheap. "Rough touring" gear is significantly less expensive, but the skills needed to are significantly more. Atli Hoks are more of a "sliding snowshoes" than skis. The key to descending with them is the sturdy pole used as a brace/outrigger/brake. It's an ancient method that is effective and requires far less training to master than more modern skiing techniques.

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PostSun Oct 30, 2022 8:33 pm 
I hadnít really thought about a budget, but probably starting out with least expensive and then working my way up. Most of the skis Iíve looked at are in the $500-800 range I think, but if thereís an option to rent first to test things out Iíd do that. Or if I find Iím going out a lot this season maybe Iíll invest in higher end gear. Whatís ďrough touringĒ gear?

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PostSun Oct 30, 2022 9:22 pm 
A modern AT setup can easily run $2500 for all new gear. Rough touring gear would be skis like this https://www.rei.com/product/195505/fischer-traverse-78-crownskin-xtralite-cross-country-skis And boots like this https://www.rei.com/product/892159/alpina-alaska-bc-cross-country-ski-boots

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PostSun Oct 30, 2022 10:13 pm 
Oh I was also looking at those Alpina boots and similar skis from Fischer too. Ok cool. Yeah figured few kilo bucks for higher end ski gear was easyÖ

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 7:53 am 
I have a very similar ski, NNN BC bindings and those Alpina Alaska boots. Great setup for meadow and logging road skipping in the Methow.

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 8:51 am 
CS wrote:
Maybe I should try Altai Hoks?
Those things look like you end up with all the downsides of snowshoes but none of the benefits of skis. I'd look for a used nordic set up similar to what Bronco listed. A lot of the skis in that class have a fair amount of sidecut, which I personally don't like: I'd rather have a straighter ski that tracks better than pretend I can effectively turn a double-camber nordic ski with a NNN BC binding and a light boot. A new AT set up is serious overkill for the use case you described, unless you have ambitions to get into touring later.

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 10:34 am 
I'd recommend the metal edges as roads can get pretty icy. I'm not a good skier but took it up for precisely the reason you are interested in using them. You might be able to get an inexpensive set up on craigslist.

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 1:36 pm 
You can rent skis in Winthrop. I would very much recommend doing that several times with different skis and boots before buying anything. See what works for you.

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 1:39 pm 
Randito wrote:
Rough touring gear would be skis like this https://www.rei.com/product/195505/fischer-traverse-78-crownskin-xtralite-cross-country-skis
I have an older version of these skis, with NNNBC bindings. I haven't used them in a few years and would prefer to never use them again. I might be talked into parting with them, but I would recommend against.

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 1:44 pm 
Cyclopath wrote:
Randito wrote:
Rough touring gear would be skis like this https://www.rei.com/product/195505/fischer-traverse-78-crownskin-xtralite-cross-country-skis
I have an older version of these skis, with NNNBC bindings. I haven't used them in a few years and would prefer to never use them again. I might be talked into parting with them, but I would recommend against.
What was the issue you had with them?

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 7:45 pm 
Following this topic because I am also in the process of putting together a ski set up and towing harness for my bike trailer. Slightly tangential question: CS - what are you using as a harness/towing system between you and sled? I have seen DIY options online and have also considered purchasing something like this harness and these poles.

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PostMon Oct 31, 2022 8:52 pm 
KascadeFlat wrote:
CS - what are you using as a harness/towing system between you and sled? I have seen DIY options online and have also considered purchasing something like this harness and these poles.
Not sure yet, I was thinking I'd keep it light and see if I could get away with some soft rope like what's on this Light Weight Racing Pulk.

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PostTue Nov 01, 2022 8:55 am 
CS wrote:
What was the issue you had with them?
They're the sour spot? Heavy, slow, and imprecise. Probably some of that is the boots I use them with. When will you be in the Methow? Or do you live there? I'll be there in December to ski, will bring these if you like, you can spend a day on them if you can get boots that will fit you.

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PostTue Nov 01, 2022 9:25 am 
CS wrote:
Not sure yet, I was thinking I'd keep it light and see if I could get away with some soft rope like what's on this Light Weight Racing Pulk.
up.gif I will report back on what option I go with and how well the solid poles work for towing weight up/downhill.

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