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PostMon Jan 16, 2023 10:17 am 
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/northwest/apple-watches-spur-dramatic-increase-in-911-calls-from-ski-resort/ Skiers and snowboarders carrying Apple Watches have triggered a “dramatic increase in unintentional 911 calls,” according to the Bonner County, Idaho, Sheriff’s Office. “Last Saturday, nearly 30% of our 911 calls were unintentional 911 calls from people enjoying activities on Schweitzer Mountain,” the Sheriff’s Office said in a Facebook post Thursday.

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PostMon Jan 16, 2023 11:57 am 
I suppose the new brave world is: if you want fancy tech, you're going to need some fancy technique to go with it. Don't fall. And especially don't fall for the Apple!

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PostMon Jan 16, 2023 2:20 pm 
I can't wait for the massive increase in SAR calls once the "Help ME!" feature of the new Iphone goes into general use. Inreach or SPOT type devices will become useless as SAR is inundated with accidental or really stupid emergency locator activations

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PostMon Jan 16, 2023 3:43 pm 
Josh Lewis wrote:
And especially don't fall for the Apple!
A revolution the likes of which hasn't been seen since Galileo dropped the orange.

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PostMon Jan 16, 2023 4:30 pm 
FiveNines wrote:
Josh Lewis wrote:
And especially don't fall for the Apple!
A revolution the likes of which hasn't been seen since Galileo dropped the orange.
Well, what about if the Swallow drops the coconuts.

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PostMon Jan 16, 2023 7:11 pm 
Apple Watch, and I guess phone too, have "fall detection" which is honestly something I would love to get for my 72 year old mom. It recognizes impact and makes a noise and shows a count down on the screen, and will call for help for you if you don't dismiss it. It's easy to tell it you don't need help, and it's easy to turn the feature off.

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PostTue Jan 17, 2023 1:59 pm 
kbatku wrote:
Inreach or SPOT type devices will become useless as SAR is inundated with accidental or really stupid emergency locator activations
I follow a slack group that includes a number of backcountry first responders. One of them mentioned about the stupid 911 calls that already originate from people with inReach devices.

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PostTue Jan 17, 2023 4:52 pm 
We finally got to use the SOS feature on our InReach a couple months ago. We found a deceased person in a pretty remote region. Oy, that was a strange day. Anyway, the process was pretty good (partly because we had great sky coverage). Within minutes we were "texting" the National Park law enforcement, after Garmin passed our case onto them. Then again, in the Olympics in a forested valley, we couldn't send out a "we're ok" signal after 45 minutes of trying.

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PostWed Jan 18, 2023 11:33 pm 
These new hi tech devices have a mind of their own!!!!! These devices are achieving thought. It is highly unpredictable what they will do. The buttons almost don't mean anything anymore. You never know what's gonna happen once you push them!!! Sometimes you're thinkin it's gonna open up the internet and all of a sudden you're in a text with 85 other people!!!!! Utter chaos on these phones!!!

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PostSat Feb 04, 2023 9:28 am 
Joey wrote:
Apple needs to fix this. https://dnyuz.com/2023/02/03/my-watch-thinks-im-dead-2/
I doubt it's possible to get 100% right, and this has already saved lives so shouldn't be abandoned. People who buy and use Apple Watches have some responsibility in this, they need to learn how their watch works and either disable this feature when they ski or tell the watch they don't need emergency services when it goes off. It tells you what it's about to do, you have to ignore it for this to happen.

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PostSat Feb 04, 2023 3:29 pm 
Cyclopath wrote:
I would love to get for my 72 year old mom.
IDK , my parents are gone now. My dad showed a lot of interest in my older sisters iPhones when they visited from Anchorage. To the point that they bought him one , but he never figured out how to keep it charged. He was a sharp engineer in his day, but learning news skills in your 80s is trickier. My mom had Parkinsons and had a summon help pendant as part of her care package at the assisted living facility we moved them too. When she fell (which happened a half dozen times) , she would never press the call for help button. She would get my dad to call me using their landline and ask me to come over and help her up. She didn't want to bother the caregivers.

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PostSun Feb 05, 2023 10:54 am 
Re an iPhone or Apple watch for an old person, I'd suggest not underestimating the ability of old people to make good use of either one, but particularly the iPhone. I recognize that interests and abilities of people vary widely, and one story is just that - a single experience. Here's one. Mid 80's grandfather with no tech experience or savvy whatsoever. One person suggested an iPhone for two reasons: the convenience of texting, and surreptitious location tracking. (I may be joking about the surreptitious part.) Though most family members thought it would be a waste because he was too old to learn, etc., they got the iPhone anyway. Spent some time teaching him how to text a little at a time. Some of the early texts were a little crazy. Now, in his early 90s, he still texts all the time. Uses emojis, with skin tone modifiers. Send pics when needed (e.g., of meds, etc.). He loves it, and the family loves it. Only downside was his wife got a little jealous because he was "always on that thing!" Problem was solved by getting her an iPad with a few casino games. smile.gif

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PostSun Feb 05, 2023 11:09 am 
It really depends on the older person's condition. If you are blessed with an aging parent who still has their wits about them. Count your blessings. Dealing with an aging relative with physical limitations is still difficult, but when their mind is failing instead or as well it add complications, both in terms of their care and the range of emotions that one experiences.

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