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| Bootpathguy wrote: | | He also tweeted that his confidence in OpenAI’s safety was “not high,” |
Elon Musk has been very confident self driving is coming any day now, for the last 10 years. Maybe his confidence level needs a tune up.
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| zimmertr wrote: | | You're watching the rise of world changing technology in real time. |
"Please rewrite this email to be business appropriate:"
John you moron how many times do I need to tell you...
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Dear John; I may have been unclear. As per my last email ...
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"It's easier to fill a man than it is to convince him he's been fooled."
Mark Twain, maybe
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It's almost up to International Master level at chess. Need shades for the future.
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ChatGPT isn't all that smart either.
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence-automated-mansplaining-machine
Here's another. We asked the bot a fairly simple riddle: "Jane's mother has four children. The first child's name is Spring, the second child's name is Summer and the third child's name is Autumn. What is the fourth child's name?"
"The fourth child's name is Winter," ChatGPT reasoned. Again, this isn't right. If Jane's mother has three other children, and those children are named, the other child's name would have to be Jane. And when we asked the bot if it was sure, it most definitely was.
"Yes, I'm sure," it answered. "The names given for the first three children are all seasons, and the fourth season is winter."
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Cyclopath
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| Jumble Jowls wrote: | | "Yes, I'm sure," it answered. "The names given for the first three children are all seasons, and the fourth season is winter." |
This is surprisingly good reasoning for a bot. It got the question wrong, but deserves partial credit for showing its work. It's kind of like a child saying "I knowed" instead of "I knew" because they understand verb tenses but haven't figured the exceptions out yet. Chat bot parsed the question correctly and gave the wrong answer but a good guess, it doesn't understand riddles. It's definitely not at the point of human level understanding, but it's further than I thought we were, and who knows where this will all be in several years?
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| Cyclopath wrote: | | This is surprisingly good reasoning for a bot. |
I am confused why you would write this. The information the bot needed to answer the question was not contained in the vast trove of internet archives it accesses to do its job, if it had been we could just shrug it off as less than perfect. In this case the information it needed was contained in the question it was asked. If it doesn't understand riddles then it should have had no problem on this one. Also, Spring, Summer, and Autumn are actually used as names, which is something that the bot could have verified. Is there anyone named "Winter?" I can't imagine a better demonstration of the limitations.
If a chatbot is useful for anything other than a temporary distraction from loneliness, it should at least be able to avoid the simplest mistakes that the wetware in our brains make, like glossing over "Jane's mother" the first time we read it.
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| Sculpin wrote: | | Cyclopath wrote: | | This is surprisingly good reasoning for a bot. |
I am confused why you would write this. |
For the reasons I explained. The fact that it was fooled by a gotcha doesn't change the impressive display. Everybody goes something wrong sometimes and that doesn't undo everything we all get right, same concept here.
The fact that it talks fluently enough to get an MBA and a job at Google means the Turing test is a historical curiosity, and people are complaining that it doesn't have the skill to get a contrived riddle? My car doesn't make coffee.
| Sculpin wrote: | | Also, Spring, Summer, and Autumn are actually used as names, which is something that the bot could have verified. Is there anyone named "Winter?" |
Nobody names their four children Spring, Summer, Autumn, Jane. That's an artificial and frankly dumb situation to ask about. Plenty of humans would make the same mistake for attentional reasons, and no one would say it's an example of humans being automatons.
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| Sculpin wrote: | | If a chatbot is useful for anything other than a temporary distraction from loneliness |
This is 100% a lack of creativity if you can only think of one (unflattering) use for a technology like this.
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I don't see the well-publicized inability of these early generation language models to perform math and logic as much of a showstopper. I'm generally pessimistic on hyped-up emerging technology, like cryptocurrency and the metaverse and self-driving cars, but this feels different. Seems feasible to integrate with various logic-oriented systems, such as some of the Wolfram products like Alpha or Mathematica, even a traditional expert system, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to guess a timeline or specific details. You can be sure that work to evolve this technology into more generalized AI is well underway. It's of huge interest to governments and individuals with lots of money, which should scare anyone paying attention.
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| neek wrote: | | this feels different. Seems feasible to integrate with various logic-oriented systems, such as some of the Wolfram products like Alpha or Mathematica, even a traditional expert system, although I'm not knowledgeable enough to guess a timeline or specific details |
That ColdFusion video I linked demonstrates some very powerful integrations in Edge/Bing. Multi-search, summarizing long documents, cross referencing data in front of you with data retrieved from other places on the internet automatically, etc.
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