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Bowregard Member
Joined: 05 Feb 2019 Posts: 562 | TRs | Pics Location: Sammamish |
Somehow I scored a Lake Ohara campsite reservation this year and my wife and I hope to do the Alpine Circuit and Lake McArthur. But after seeing some of the trip reports I can't tell if the terrain is suitable for us.
We are hikers (not climbers) so other than a mild scramble we avoid exposure that requires climbing. I have seen some descriptions of the Huber Ledges that make it seem very sketchy for us and others that appear fine. Can anybody compare the Alpine Circuit exposure to a Cascades trail that we might know or be able to test for comparison?
We can always reverse course if the going gets sketchy but with access so limited I would rather plan to skip that section if it looks like we might have to.
The snow should not be an issue by the time we will be in the area.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:21 pm
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Anne Elk BrontosaurusTheorist
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Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:38 pm
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Bowregard - One of my regrets is that I never got up there and did the highline trail when I lived in Banff. How many nights reservation do you have? I'd definitely do as much of it as you're comfortable with, especially if you'll be there for more than one night; the views are fabulous.
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rossb Member
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Sun Jun 25, 2023 7:38 pm
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I did it with my wife years ago, but we turned back. I've done a lot more scrambling than she has. I then went up to Abbott Pass by myself. I don't remember that being particularly scary, but there was a ton of loose scree. This is my report from back then: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rossbl/sets/72157603231925138/.
My wife and I more recently stayed by Lake Ohara and this time we didn't consider going up there. There is a ton of great hiking in the area you can do on nice trails.
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Eric Hansen Member
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My near 40 year old memory of Lake Ohara is there are so many great trails there. I did not do Huber Ledges. +1 on rossb's take on Abbott Pass. Memory has the hut very eroded in a recent report.
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Songs2 Member
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Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:15 pm
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One can still visit the site, but the Abbot Pass hut came down in June 2022. Sad!
CBC with some pictures of dismantling Also "after" photo
Gripped article, more detailed discussing slope erosion (climate change) and masonry cracks, with stark "before" photo.
I did not get up to alpine circuit. Some much younger and stronger hikers did; they found it spicy but manageable.
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Bowregard Member
Joined: 05 Feb 2019 Posts: 562 | TRs | Pics Location: Sammamish |
Anne Elk wrote: | Bowregard - One of my regrets is that I never got up there and did the highline trail when I lived in Banff. How many nights reservation do you have? I'd definitely do as much of it as you're comfortable with, especially if you'll be there for more than one night; the views are fabulous. |
We have 2 non-consecutive nights reserved (1 day in between). The reservation system was really strange and for some reason we could not book more than one night but we lucked out and the day after we leave another night popped up. Unfortunately, the timing of the second night creates conflicts so as of right now we are planning on only one night unless we can figure out a way to make it work.
Scree on a narrow sloped ledge would be a bad combination for us.
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That's one of my favorite places. You are going to have such a great time!
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Songs2 Member
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Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:54 pm
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Bowregard,
Here is the Alltrails description.
I've thought of joining the Alpine Club of Canada specifically to stay at the Elizabeth Parker Hut at Lake O'Hara, but summer bookings are through a lottery system.
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Bowregard Member
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Thanks for all the replies. I hope I have not been overly optimistic about the Alpine Circuit. On paper the distance and elevation gain looks possible for us but of course it is always the details that can get you in trouble. We spent a few weeks in the Canadian Rockies last summer and were able to do Edith Cavell, Wilcox Pass, Iceline, Sentinel Pass, etc. but could not get a reservation into Lake O'Hara (even just the bus). I was surprised that we got in this year.
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rossb Member
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Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:15 am
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Bowregard wrote: | I hope I have not been overly optimistic about the Alpine Circuit. |
Based on my old notes (which I referenced) you will be OK either way. It doesn't get easier, so if it feels too exposed, you will simply turn back and do something else (that also happens to be spectacular).
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We received the following denial for our request for the 8AM Lake O'Hara bus (they switched us to 10:30):
"Unfortunately, our 8.30am is full, these seats are taken mainly by our day users to allow them to have enough time to enjoy the area. With even a 1-night reservation this will allow you plenty of time to explore the trails, I’d recommend checking out the McArthur area on you 1st day then possibly doing the Alpine Circuit on your second day – Please note our last returning bus is at 6.30pm so you will have the full day to enjoy Lake O’Hara!"
We were considering hiking to Lake McArthur on one of the days but the videos I have seen show a lot of talus and a scramble on that route . I see on Alltrails there is a high and low route to Lake McArthur. I am going to assume one of those is easier since the Lake McArthur trail is rated as easier. Any other options worth considering if we decide the Alpine Circuit is a bit much for us?
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I've done MacArthur both routes and they're fine. Lake Oesa is also pretty nice.
Backpacking: limited to one pack at a time. Cameras: limited to as many as I can carry.
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Eric Hansen Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2015 Posts: 866 | TRs | Pics Location: Wisconsin |
I've good memories of Abbott Pass for its views - if not fogged in. Definitely a long slog up a slope of scree and small talus (definition I favor is talus is basketball size and larger). Not a good route for running shoes.
Gripped article that Songs2 posted has a video of hike up to About Pass (and the now gone hut). Gives you a good idea what that slope is like.
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