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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
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Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:44 pm
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Some of those aluminum tags are revisited every ten years. They are forest inventory plots.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
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IanB Vegetable Belayer
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:22 pm
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More gratuitous fissure footage - now with soft-jazz!
"Forget gaining a little knowledge about a lot and strive to learn a lot about a little." - Harvey Manning
"Forget gaining a little knowledge about a lot and strive to learn a lot about a little." - Harvey Manning
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zephyr aka friendly hiker
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Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:18 pm
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IanB wrote: | More gratuitous fissure footage - now with soft-jazz! |
haha! Awesome! ~z
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boot up Old Not Bold Hiker
Joined: 12 Dec 2006 Posts: 4745 | TRs | Pics Location: Bend Oregon |
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Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:17 pm
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And now they are saying it COULD be years before it slides, but could also happen anytime.
Gee, that is helpful. Not.
Bummer is the best route to get between Central Oregon and Seattle area passes right through the slide path. So now we need to debate.....Am I feeling lucky? Or go through all the traffic shitstorms on the I5 route, which is probably worse odds of surviving, now that I think of it.
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 11279 | TRs | Pics Location: Don't move here |
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treeswarper
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:52 am
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Well, that meteor is waiting to smash into earth and cause our demise, or those nukes are aimed and ready to go, or....
I'd drive it without worries as long as traffic is moving.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:59 am
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What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
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cascadeclimber Member
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This appears to be directly adjacent to a gravel pit or some kind of mining operation. Has there been any discussion about whether/how that may have destabilized the slope?
This touches on the nerve inflamed by the issue above Talus in Issaquah. Developer cuts down all trees on steep slope. Slope slides. City uses my tax dollars to fix so developer can go on building housing blight on hillside.
Seems like if a for-profit company alters the mechanics of a hillside and it then becomes unstable, mitigation should be at *their* expense, not taxpayer's.
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moonspots Happy Curmudgeon
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 2456 | TRs | Pics Location: North Dakota |
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 6:18 pm
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cascadeclimber wrote: | Seems like if a for-profit company alters the mechanics of a hillside and it then becomes unstable, mitigation should be at *their* expense, not taxpayer's. |
Well, that sounds completely reasonable to me. Well said. Now how do we go about making it happen?
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"Out, OUT you demons of Stupidity"! - St Dogbert, patron Saint of Technology
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RichP Member
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 5634 | TRs | Pics Location: here |
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:06 pm
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moonspots wrote: | cascadeclimber wrote: | Seems like if a for-profit company alters the mechanics of a hillside and it then becomes unstable, mitigation should be at *their* expense, not taxpayer's. |
Well, that sounds completely reasonable to me. Well said. Now how do we go about making it happen? |
I assume the company has a permit from the state to operate there so the taxpayer will undoubtably be paying in the end if this thing ever goes.
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Ski ><((((ー>
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:19 pm
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There are rock quarries and gravel mining operations all over the continent.
How many instances have there been where there's been a documented correlation between a catastrophic slide event and a gravel mining operation or rock quarry?
I'm surprised nobody claimed it was caused by logging.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 11279 | TRs | Pics Location: Don't move here |
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Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:39 pm
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The pit owners did pay for hotel rooms for a while for the people living in harm's way.
Sometimes you need to talk to a geologist to get an idea that slides will happen no matter what is done or not done to the land. Slides are a fact of life.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Chief Joseph Member
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treeswarper wrote: | Sometimes you need to talk to a geologist |
I would not trust my life to a Geologist, especially when they were paid by the pit owners. I would GTFO....good luck trying to sell their houses though aye?
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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Ski ><((((ー>
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Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:20 am
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Well.... the geologists are the ones who are supposed to be academically trained to ascertain exactly what any "cause" might be.
There's always the possibility the activity of the gravel mining operation may have been a contributing factor, but at this point that's no less speculative than suggesting the vibration of the railroad running down at the toe of the slope may have been a cause.
That's not consolidated bedrock there - it's unconsolidated alluvial glacial till. If it weren't there wouldn't be a gravel mining operation there.
And bear in mind what "Nick on the Rocks" told us above: the river is older than those hills. It's been chewing away at them for millennia. White people have only been in that valley for about 150 years. Who's to say this sort of thing isn't part of the natural landscape over there?
All guesses until the "ologists" start poking holes and doing their "ologist" thing and come up with some answers.
May as well get out your Ouija board and ask why it's happening.
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"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 11279 | TRs | Pics Location: Don't move here |
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treeswarper
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Fri Feb 02, 2018 7:22 am
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Chief Joseph wrote: | treeswarper wrote: | Sometimes you need to talk to a geologist |
I would not trust my life to a Geologist, especially when they were paid by the pit owners. I would GTFO....good luck trying to sell their houses though aye? |
I do not think all the geologists were paid by the pit owners.
A reminder: Rock pits are a necessary evil for our current transportation systems. I hate to villify them for providing what we need.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human末animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Ski ><((((ー>
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Fri Feb 02, 2018 9:54 am
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In all the cacophony of conjecture, has anybody stopped to consider why Horseshoe Bend just upstream (on the Naches) is Horseshoe Bend?
46.761698, -120.829296
Just food for thought.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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