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PostWed May 05, 2021 1:48 pm 
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PostWed May 05, 2021 2:17 pm 
Never liked these apps for this reason, but I wish websites wouldn't mandate specific criteria for passwords. I have my own method to vary secure passwords by site but it breaks when I'm forced to adjust to a random spec, and I'm inevitably forced to write it down somewhere making it less secure.

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PostWed May 05, 2021 3:42 pm 
Do not use them either, if there is software someone will hack it. That is a scientific fact as powerful as the first and second laws of thermodynamics and Murphy’s Law.

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PostWed May 05, 2021 4:38 pm 
Malware can install a keyboard sniffer on your computer, so whatever you do, never enter a password using the keyboard.

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PostWed May 05, 2021 5:25 pm 
Plenty of password managers allow you to store your database locally so you don't have to risk it possibly being hacked in the cloud. The benefits of using one vastly outweigh the risks, in my opinion. I'd never, ever go back to not using one (currently using Bitwarden).

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PostWed May 05, 2021 5:38 pm 
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Sore Feet wrote:
Plenty of password managers allow you to store your database locally so you don't have to risk it possibly being hacked in the cloud. The benefits of using one vastly outweigh the risks, in my opinion. I'd never, ever go back to not using one (currently using Bitwarden).
This, exactly. However, note in this case, the software on users' devices was compromised, via a bad update, not the "cloud". (Just like the SolarWinds thing.) Needless to say, anyone who was using Passwordstate needs to take immediate action.

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PostWed May 05, 2021 5:47 pm 
I self host Bitwarden on my R730xd and even port forward it to the internet! All of the data is encrypted client side before being sent to the server.

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PostWed May 05, 2021 8:24 pm 
neek wrote:
Malware can install a keyboard sniffer on your computer, so whatever you do, never enter a password using the keyboard.
True, and this is why I have to use biometric MFA to log in at work. The chances of intentionally installing software without realizing that it's compromised is a million percent more than having a key logger installed into your device. I'd love to talk more about computer security but I can nerd out and make most peoples' eyes glaze over.

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PostWed May 05, 2021 10:25 pm 
You can rely on the forgot password deal. Just rely on these various auto generated password deals. Make em do the work for you!

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PostThu May 06, 2021 3:07 pm 
Years ago I had a job where we had to change our password every 3 months, and couldn't reuse any of the last 3. So my passwords went: spring -> summer -> autumn -> winter. I was disappointed when we started having to use numbers, upper and lower case, punctuation, gang symbols, and Egyptian hieroglyphics.

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PostThu May 06, 2021 3:11 pm 
isn't hacking just another name for virus protection extortion? Pay 49.99$ a year or we will upload your browser search history on facebook - you decide.

Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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