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BigBrunyon Member
Joined: 19 Mar 2015 Posts: 1467 | TRs | Pics Location: the fitness gyms!! |
The bears prefer to feed at the garbage dumps because they can tell there's leftover BURGERS in there. They can tell because they smell the BURGERS from miles away. They don't pass up a Meat Main, so they prefer to feed at the garbage dumps bcause the BURGERS are in there.
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7754 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Pretty much true, they also really like pork. Years ago my sons and I were in North Idaho, had a bonfire going and had some leftover pork ribs warming on a fire ring rock. Suddenly a huge black bear appeared out of the shadows...so much for wildlife being very afraid of fire. The house was only about 60' away so we quickly went inside. Went back out and the bear was gone. They also like beer, years ago a black bear was in the local eateries dumpster with a Budweiser in his mouth. so ymmv.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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Gil Member
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Wed May 08, 2024 8:53 am
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One good thing about this is that there will be a lot fewer people in the North Cascades now.
Friends help the miles go easier.
Klahini
Friends help the miles go easier.
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altasnob Member
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Wed May 08, 2024 10:12 am
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Why do you say that? There's other places with grizzlies, like Beartooths, MT, Glacier NP, Whistler, and Banff, that are packed with hikers. Maybe a few will be too scared to go hike Cascade Pass and Maple Pass loop with the masses, but I don't expect any meaningful reduction in hikers. Most will educate themselves, and come to the conclusion that if you take some reasonable precautions, your risk of an adverse grizzly encounter is nearly non-existent.
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uww Member
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Wed May 08, 2024 10:16 am
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All you will be able to hear is bear bells and drone whirring.
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Cyclopath Faster than light
Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Posts: 7800 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
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Wed May 08, 2024 10:34 am
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uww wrote: | All you will be able to hear is bear bells and drone whirring. |
And motorcycles and off leash dogs! Best to stay home.
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7754 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Don't forget the chain saws and the item not to be mentioned here. Also no discussion of politics in wilderness areas. Wild Turkey 101 will help to alleviate your fear of being eaten by a griz.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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cdestroyer Member
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rbuzby Attention Surplus
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Wed May 08, 2024 1:39 pm
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A lot of people think there is some mysterious remote interior to the Cascades. I wish there was. But there is no place so remote a bear couldn't walk out in a day or two. Of course they will end up going after the easiest high calorie food. Like garbage.
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altasnob Member
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Wed May 08, 2024 2:12 pm
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rbuzby wrote: | there is no place so remote a bear couldn't walk out in a day or two. |
You can say the exact same things about the other places grizzlies currently inhabit. The grizzlies in the Beartooths, Yellowstone, Glacier NP, Banff, and Whistler could easily walk to a garbage can in a day or two. But they don't.
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RumiDude Marmota olympus
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Wed May 08, 2024 2:21 pm
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rbuzby wrote: | A lot of people think there is some mysterious remote interior to the Cascades. I wish there was. But there is no place so remote a bear couldn't walk out in a day or two. Of course they will end up going after the easiest high calorie food. Like garbage. |
This is true of all the lower 48 areas where grizzlies are currently. And yet most of the grizzlies have remained quite satisfied with their traditional wild diet.
Rumi
"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7754 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
I think that’s mostly true depending upon how clean people keep their properties and camps. Back years ago in north Idaho they had an open air garbage dump and people would go there to watch the bears.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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treeswarper Alleged Sockpuppet!
Joined: 25 Dec 2006 Posts: 11289 | TRs | Pics Location: Don't move here |
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Thu May 09, 2024 8:32 am
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There is an editorial in the Spokesman Review today echoing my thoughts that the relocated bears are getting a death sentence.
Face it, it's a type of animal cruelty taking an intelligent bear who is used to their current area and dumping them into an unfamiliar area, expecting them to be able to locate food sources.
Kind of like dumping a person from the city into a remote forest/jungle and expecting them to thrive and multiply simply because studies show that forage exists. That person will have no idea where "forage" grows and what is even edible.
It does mean more funding for wildlife biologists so they can better forage in grocery stores.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
Slim Ski
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7754 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
Not sure about that, it seems that most would adapt and survive, and hopefully the adaptation process would not include human sourced food. But as a whole, I totally disagree with the entire reintroduction process.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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altasnob Member
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1440 | TRs | Pics Location: Tacoma |
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Thu May 09, 2024 8:01 pm
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The Record of Decision says:
Quote: | The selected alternative will remove up to 7 grizzly bears per year over an initial 5-to-10-year period from trapping efforts occurring in interior British Columbia and/or the Northern Continental Divide Ecosystem and Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem |
The bears from interior British Columbia would be used to nearly the exact same flora as you would find in the Cascades. The Rocky Mountains around Nelson, BC get a ton of moisture, so they have plants like Devils Club, just like in the Cascades. And the same type of berries. They are similar altitude too.
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