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Schroder Member
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Thu May 06, 2010 11:33 am
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To give some perspective, here's a map of the project area. It crosses the Mountain Loop Highway just beyond Masonic Park & extends north to Canyon Creek and east about half a mile before the Robe Canyon Trailhead and the Green Mountain Road. The southern end is just above the Robe Canyon tunnels.
If you bother to read any of the project information already posted, they will have graded tracks, grandstands, parking areas, etc.
This is a rezone from forest land to recreation.
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RokIzGud Cozza Frenzy
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 1049 | TRs | Pics
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Fri May 07, 2010 8:03 am
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Slugman wrote: | They should build this track right next to your mother's house. |
Does your mother live on the mountain loop highway? Designated tracks are going to keep riders off the hiking trails.
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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 7113 | TRs | Pics Location: Arlington |
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Fri May 07, 2010 9:05 am
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RokIzGud wrote: | Slugman wrote: | They should build this track right next to your mother's house. |
Does your mother live on the mountain loop highway? Designated tracks are going to keep riders off the hiking trails. |
You don't get up to the mountian loop area much do you? I have seen no evidence of motorcycle activity on the area trails in years. Unless it some trials bike rider ultimate zen master of throttle control who has mastered the art of not spinning the tire...those who are that good are few. All trail erosion in there area is due to rain fall, and the massive number of hikers.
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
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tmatlack Member
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 2854 | TRs | Pics
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Fri May 07, 2010 5:38 pm
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Rok and Hulk,
Remember this is a racetrack, not an ORV park with single track, mud bogs, and different trails for different vehicles. This is 7 days/wk., 10:00 am to sundown track practice and racing for dirtbikes, maybe quads, maybe snowmobiles, every day of the year. (That's what the permit is asking for.)
From the mx forums I look at, track racers and ORV park users, like 4 wheelers at Reiter, have a different set of priorities.
Tom
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tmatlack Member
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Thu May 20, 2010 1:07 pm
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Comrades,
Reload the calendars. The Hearing Examiner meeting in Everett for MXGP Motocross has been rescheduled for July 7,8, 9.
The MDNS was appealed by several different people/agencies and the county planning people and applicant are looking at some tough arguments against the SEPA determination and project in general.
Tom
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tmatlack Member
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Wed May 26, 2010 3:20 am
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All,
Here's a big article on the proposed track from the Herald:
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20100525/NEWS01/705259854/0/LIVING05
The applicant loves to tell everyone how noisy the area is anyway with two gravel pits next door, but he doesn't tell anyone he will be permitted to operate until 10:00 at night and on weekends/holidays when the pits are closed.
Tom
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Chief Joseph Member
Joined: 10 Nov 2007 Posts: 7710 | TRs | Pics Location: Verlot-Priest Lake |
I am a motorcycle rider and I think that people should have a place to ride and race, but I do not think that this would be the right place.
Too much impact upon residents and WAY to close to a popular hiking trail.
It is hard to believe that there is no place near here where this would work.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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GeoHiker Rocky Walker
Joined: 26 Feb 2005 Posts: 6033 | TRs | Pics Location: Off the Deep End |
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Thu May 27, 2010 12:23 am
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The optimal spot for this would have been Reiter. It's already been a ORV site for 60 years and wouldn't have upset the noise cart with the locals.
You can bet the pressure will be on MLH now that Reiter is being neutered to death. There needs to be more space for ORV's, but the MLH area isn't the place.
You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye......Eagles
You call some place paradise, kiss it goodbye......Eagles
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tmatlack Member
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 6:37 pm
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Comrades,
The hearing for early July is delayed again. Time to reset the calendars.
Tom
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Magellan Brutally Handsome
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 13116 | TRs | Pics Location: Inexorable descent |
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Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:36 pm
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Thanks Tom. Post when new dates are selected.
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tmatlack Member
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 4:11 am
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Comrades,
Actually, Snohomish County PDS pulled the whole darn Determination of Mitigated Nonsignificance and put it on hold. Lots of contention and brouhaha.
Tom
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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 7113 | TRs | Pics Location: Arlington |
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:57 am
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Determine something significant?
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
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tmatlack Member
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Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:51 am
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Hulksmash wrote: | Determine something significant? |
Depends on which end of the muffler/expansion chamber you're on I reckon.
Tom
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tmatlack Member
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Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:47 am
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Salooners,
Once again it seems the MXGP motocross racetrack will get its meeting with the Snohomish County Hearing Examiner, probably late summer, but there are no firm dates as of Aug. 1.
If anyone from WTA, Mountaineers, or Sierra Club is interested in a little, easy community service, stewardship, activism, I would appreciate a PM.
Thanks,
Tom Matlack
Lake Stevens/Granite Falls
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tmatlack Member
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Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:21 pm
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NW Hikers,
It's back. Snohomish County PDS just issued the Mitigated Determination of Nonsignificance for the motocross track sited near the Old Robe RR Tunnel county park on Mountain Loop Highway. Straight up give away by the county. No enforcement of anything at all. Gonna make for some noisy hikes up Pilly.
Any Mountaineers, etc. interested in a little stewardship can PM me.
No hearing date yet.
Tom M.
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