[ree]

Anybody else doing this?? Adobe is not selling their software anymore, you have to subscribe to them if you want their software. There's upsides to it: you can get their entire line of software for one low price ($32/mo), you never have to pay for upgrades, use of their cyber space, etc. The downside is you don't own the software. For me, I guess it's a good deal - I use a lot their software - not just photoshop. No more upgrades. For work, I have to have this stuff. But usually, I'd let my versions get a few years old between upgrades, making it cheaper for me to get by. Now it feels like I'm dealing with a drug dealer whom I have to pay for my art habit. Another thing I'm finding... I installed one Creative Cloud app. Now my resident old versions are clunking to a halt. Looks like I have to stop whining and jump in the deep end.

[DarkHelmet]

I do the lightroom and photshop bundle for 9.99... Works for me. don't use any of the "cloud" stuff.

[Kim Brown]

Nowadays, if you upgrade, you get the Cloud. No options. It can be a pain, esp. when partners/clients don't have updated software and you're sharing work and using their input on the product. One reason we chose to not upgrade right now - gotta let the world catch up and the software companies work the bugs.

[Cyclopath]

I use an older version of Photoshop. It wasn't cheap and it does everything I need, so I don't see a reason to upgrade. No use for Lightroom, either.

[NacMacFeegle]

I find my old versions of Photoshop and Lightroom to be more than adequate for my needs. I'd rather use a different brand of photo software than sell my soul to the Creative Cloud!

[Bedivere]

I'm torn about this. I use Lightroom pretty much exclusively for my post-processing. Much better workflow than Photoshop and does everything I need it to. I haven't messed around much with exposure or focus blending or stacking or anything like that yet. My old version of Lightroom 4.whatever works just fine. I know there will come a time, eventually, when it doesn't work any more, but just like Windows 7 I'll stick with it 'til I'm forced to upgrade. At that time I don't see any way around paying the subscription. Lightroom just works too well and I don't know of any other companies offering a non-subscription based alternative. I was given my copy of Lightroom for Christmas back when it was version 3.something. I paid $99 for an upgrade to version 4 and that's all I've spent on it. Been using it for at least 4 years now. Having to pay $120/year is significantly more expensive.

[Sore Feet]

I straight up bought Creative Suite 6 when they announced that the next version would be the cloud subscription only. I refuse to subscribe to software mainly out of principle, but also because I don't so much find myself needing it anymore. I used to use Illustrator and Dreamweaver a ton, use InDesign a fair bit, but I've found better, cheaper (or free) programs for web coding, and I have no incentive to upgrade from the Illustrator or InDesign version I have. I use Lightroom a ton, and Photoshop quite a bit. LR4 serves me just fine (never got 5), and I've been planning on upgrading to 6 when it comes out, as long as they stick to their original promise and release it as a standalone. But if they do go cloud only for Lightroom as well, I'll stick with LR4 and Photoshop CS6 as long as I can, then find a competitor when I'm out of options.

[NacMacFeegle]

[mike]

[Sore Feet]

[Bedivere]

What video editor would you recommend that is competitive with Premiere? It gets awfully hard to wade through the marketing BS when you have no practical experience.

[Jim Dockery]

I've been using Photoshop for so many years it's integral to my work flow. I also do a lot of work with layers, so Lightroom isn't up to the task. I'm afraid Adobe has me caught, and I was pretty pissed about the subscription thing when they first introduced it. I stuck with CS6 until they finally separated Photoshop & Lightroom for $10/month. While there were no incredible new features I had to have, the auto updating of Camera Raw (which does have some new features), was the top of my list. When friends who are looking to get into photo editing ask about software I still recommend Photoshop Elements. Much cheaper than the full version, it does everything a photographer wants. I use actions (macros combining many steps into one click) on almost every picture I edit, Elements doesn't have them, so I'm stuck with the full meal deal.

[Cyclopath]

I used to really like Adobe Camera Raw, but I'm using an old version of PS and it doesn't know how to open raw files from my camera. So I use the Canon software to convert them, it saves a tiff file and launches it in Photoshop, then I do what I need. It's less convenient but you don't need PS to convert your raw files. I think PS Elements also doesn't have the curves adjustment? That's a show-stopper for me. The Gimp is better than Photoshop in some ways, but I found the UI horrible.

[joker]

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