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Jamin Smitchger Member
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 673 | TRs | Pics Location: Pullman |
Just out of curiosity, is the number of hikers increasing or decreasing in this state. It seems like all that kids do these days is play video games, which could mean that there are few young people coming into the sport.
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jenjen Moderatrix
Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Posts: 7617 | TRs | Pics Location: Sierra stylin |
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:21 pm
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Judging from what I've seen on the trails around here, the number of hikers is pretty static. I think more people like the idea of hiking. When it comes right down to dealing with dirt, bugs, and sore feet, tho, most people really aren't interested.
If life gives you melons - you might be dyslexic
If life gives you melons - you might be dyslexic
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
I think that the number of back country freaks (like me and others here) remains the same, but I'd say that there are less overall hikers out there now a days as compared to 20 years ago.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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Hiker Boy Hinking Fool
Joined: 18 Feb 2002 Posts: 1569 | TRs | Pics Location: Northern Polar Icecap |
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Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:13 pm
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I find that the number of people on the trails is increasing up here. There appears to be more people doing it because it's trendy and fashionable than for any other reason. I know this has already been a busier year for the SAR people than previous ones.
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Aztec Member
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 16 | TRs | Pics
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:18 am
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Honestly....alot of gungho hikers alienate newbies like myself from actually going out and learning and trying new things, its very cliquish. for example, I was in a local gear shop and when I walked in I got one look and was ignored the whole time, he gave me the feeling of why are you here and this isn't the place for you kind of attitude, when all I wanted to do was buy a new platypus. people like that could be a major reason why hiker numbers are down in some areas. If it wasn't for a great friend of mine and veteran hiker, I would have given up a longtime ago.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
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Aztec Member
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:55 pm
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And now its happing in here!
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
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Trevor Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 1562 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:11 pm
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The wild was created for every soul to enjoy, not just the veterans. As long as you have good intentions Aztec, I fully support your hiking enthusiasm.
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touron Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 10293 | TRs | Pics Location: Plymouth Rock |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:24 pm
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Quote: | I was in a local gear shop and when I walked in I got one look and was ignored the whole time, he gave me the feeling of why are you here and this isn't the place for you kind of attitude |
Yeah, like they created the outdoors to start with. If not for the outdoors they wouldn't have a store. I don't see alot of snobbery, but then I pretty much just shop at the REI. I've found the staff there to be pretty friendly and helpful. Maybe it's different elsewhere. But Aztec, if your avatar is Al Capone, I would't expect the person who treated you that way to do it...more than once.
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
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Overlander a.k.a. Trailjunky
Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 167 | TRs | Pics Location: Central Washington Desert |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:43 pm
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Aztec wrote: | If it wasn't for a great friend of mine and veteran hiker, I would have given up a longtime ago. |
This friend you speak of sounds like a great and powerful woodland warrior. He's a keeper. I feel that it is important that all people get some sort of exposure to the outdoors. Too many people these days are happy living within a small bubble not experiencing the world. So sad. I believe we as humans are loosing certain skills that we from the begginging of time have used to survive. Technology is cool and fun, but I think it has made us weak (us being people who don't get out there). I have a friend I hike with who is Hispanic. While hiking together in Umtanum Canyon early this year we passed a gaggle of soccer moms who acknowledged me but not him. So I know exactly what your talking about with the trail snobs. KEEP HIKING MY MAN!
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Overlander a.k.a. Trailjunky
Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 167 | TRs | Pics Location: Central Washington Desert |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:51 pm
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Hiker Boy wrote: | I find that the number of people on the trails is increasing up here. There appears to be more people doing it because it's trendy and fashionable than for any other reason. |
Agreed.
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Trevor Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2004 Posts: 1562 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:08 pm
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Technology has produced more modern conveniences, making home life ultimately more pleasurable to some, I speculate that some people find it difficult to deviate from these addictive luxuries for a long period, which could possibly describe the decrease in backpacking. But technology has also created the means to access trails easier.
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wildernessed viewbagger
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 9275 | TRs | Pics Location: Wenatchee |
I rarely see anyone (on the trail), and at the most I think maybe a party of 4-5 since being out here.
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Overlander a.k.a. Trailjunky
Joined: 05 Jun 2005 Posts: 167 | TRs | Pics Location: Central Washington Desert |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:31 pm
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Trevor wrote: | Technology has produced more modern conveniences, making home life ultimately more pleasurable to some, I speculate that some people find it difficult to deviate from these addictive luxuries for a long period, which could possibly describe the decrease in backpacking. But technology has also created the means to access trails easier. |
Yes Yes, modern conveniences, pleasurable, difficult to deviate. You made my point. Its too easy to be lazy. You can enjoy using modern conveniences without being a lump.
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Blue Dome Now with Retsyn
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 3144 | TRs | Pics Location: Cleaning up the dogma. |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:58 pm
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I think the number of people hiking and enjoying the outdoors in other ways has increased in Washington. From the growth of our population, to the growth of REI, to stats like the following, there are more folks playing outside.
http://www.dnr.wa.gov/htdocs/adm/comm/rectrust.htm
Quote: | During the past ten years, the number and length of trails on state lands has increased by more than 40%. Today we have nearly 1,000 miles of trails available to the public for hiking, bike riding and other activities. However, while use of public lands has increased, funding has decreased. |
Below is how Washington State ranks in outdoor activity participation compared to the other states. Data collected in 2001 and the first six months of 2002.
The numbers represent state ranking, percentage of people over age 16 who said they participated in the activity at least once the previous year, and number of participants.
http://www.outdoorindustry.org/State_by_State_Study.pdf
Quote: | For Washington State:
Overall outdoor recreation (see report for complete list of outdoor activities): #14, 72.7%, 3,309,763
Backpacking: #5, 12.8%, 582,737
Camping: #10, 10.2%, 464,368
Car camping: #8, 30.2%, 1,374,289
Rock climbing: #30, 1.7%, 77,395
Indoor climbing: #27, 1.7% 77,395
Ice climbing: #28, .6%, 27,316
Hiking: #8, 44.2%, 2,012,263
Cross-country skiing: #17, 7.6%, 346,000
Snowshoeing: #18, 3.5% 159,342
Trail running: #5, 23.8%, 1,083,526 |
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touron Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 10293 | TRs | Pics Location: Plymouth Rock |
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Sat Jun 25, 2005 8:11 pm
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Quote: | Beginning in 2001 and even more strongly in 2003, a long-time pattern of increasing
outdoor recreation participation changed into downward trend. For 2003, only 6 tracked
activities showed an increase in participation (percentage of the public reporting
participation over the past twelve months) while 21 showed a decline in participation.
Only one activity, driving for pleasure, showed a substantial increase (up 7 points from
2001). Concerns about travel arising from the events of September 11, 2001, are likely to
have contributed to this decline but other factors, including leisure time opportunities on
the Internet and increased offerings through cable and satellite TV channels are also likely
factors. |
Link
How this relates to Washington and hiking is the question, but it seems in general, outdoor recreation is declining. Maybe this has something to do with things like Trail Park Passes and such. Who knows?
As for me, right now I am typing and not recreating. And you, the reader,...
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
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